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Re: Power unit power speculation

Posted: 22 Oct 2016, 21:45
by jknights
Hate to state the obvious but the MGU-K unit does not have infinite power!!

There is and must be a limit.

Currently the limitations (to me) seem to be around the inability of the Pirelli tyres to last and put down the power. However McLaren dont have enough power to really test the tyres or do they?

Re: Power unit power speculation

Posted: 23 Oct 2016, 00:24
by mrluke
jknights wrote:Hate to state the obvious but the MGU-K unit does not have infinite power!!

There is and must be a limit.

Currently the limitations (to me) seem to be around the inability of the Pirelli tyres to last and put down the power. However McLaren dont have enough power to really test the tyres or do they?
We have just established they likely have in excess of 900bhp...

Re: Power unit power speculation

Posted: 23 Oct 2016, 11:37
by Pierce89
mrluke wrote:
jknights wrote:Hate to state the obvious but the MGU-K unit does not have infinite power!!

There is and must be a limit.

Currently the limitations (to me) seem to be around the inability of the Pirelli tyres to last and put down the power. However McLaren dont have enough power to really test the tyres or do they?
We have just established they likely have in excess of 900bhp...
Which sucks when every one else is rocking out 980bhp

Re: Power unit power speculation

Posted: 23 Oct 2016, 15:17
by mrluke
Pierce89 wrote:
mrluke wrote:
jknights wrote:Hate to state the obvious but the MGU-K unit does not have infinite power!!

There is and must be a limit.

Currently the limitations (to me) seem to be around the inability of the Pirelli tyres to last and put down the power. However McLaren dont have enough power to really test the tyres or do they?
We have just established they likely have in excess of 900bhp...
Which sucks when every one else is rocking out 980bhp
Citation needed.

Re: Power unit power speculation

Posted: 24 Oct 2016, 01:39
by Pierce89
mrluke wrote:
Pierce89 wrote:
mrluke wrote:
We have just established they likely have in excess of 900bhp...
Which sucks when every one else is rocking out 980bhp
Citation needed.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/analy ... er-829341/

Re: Power unit power speculation

Posted: 24 Oct 2016, 14:57
by mrluke
Pierce89 wrote:
mrluke wrote:
Pierce89 wrote: Which sucks when every one else is rocking out 980bhp
Citation needed.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/analy ... er-829341/
Any evidence for Renault and Ferrari?

Re: Power unit power speculation

Posted: 24 Oct 2016, 15:33
by zac510
Pierce89 wrote:
mrluke wrote:
Pierce89 wrote: Which sucks when every one else is rocking out 980bhp
Citation needed.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/analy ... er-829341/
Whenever there is a question in a news headline, the answer is always No.

Re: Power unit power speculation

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 00:56
by PlatinumZealot
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Re: Power unit power speculation

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 09:58
by Blackout

Re: Power unit power speculation

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 13:26
by Juzh
All very technical and hard to understand correctly with google translate, but this is what I got from it:

Quali power:
Mercedes: 975 hp
Ferrari: 960 hp
Renault: 940 hp

Race "sustained" power:
Mercedes: 940 hp
Ferrari: 940 hp
Renault: 915 hp

I put "sustained" in paragraphs because it's been known mercedes can sustain max or at least higher power for much longer than ferrari or renault. Especially on long straights of any kind.

https://streamable.com/mlyc

Re: Power unit power speculation

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 13:30
by wuzak
Very interesting Blackout.

Especially since Horner has complained about Mercedes and Ferrari using special qualifying modes and Renault not having one.

I'd think that the extra power needed to gain 0.6-0.7s per lap would be more than just the 35hp the article mentions.

Interesting that they are calling Ferrari and Mercedes has having the same power in normal race mode.

Re: Power unit power speculation

Posted: 27 Oct 2016, 17:59
by godlameroso
There's no way Ferrari is .7 slower than Mercedes by virtue of an inferior chassis. .3 or .4 maybe, but the rest comes from the power unit.

Re: Power unit power speculation

Posted: 28 Oct 2016, 14:18
by Brian Coat
@Blackout : Are those Italian journalists getting the GPS feeds from somewhere?