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Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 23:00
by PlatinumZealot
sosic2121 wrote:
02 Jun 2019, 09:46
hurril wrote:
22 May 2019, 09:45
This is mildly interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkCZAzZ ... gs=pl%2Cwn
At 7k rpm pressure goes to 10 bars.
Is this usual for race car/f1 engines?
Thats not charge air pressure! Thats something else!

Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 19:25
by sosic2121
PlatinumZealot wrote:
02 Jun 2019, 23:00
sosic2121 wrote:
02 Jun 2019, 09:46
hurril wrote:
22 May 2019, 09:45
This is mildly interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkCZAzZ ... gs=pl%2Cwn
At 7k rpm pressure goes to 10 bars.
Is this usual for race car/f1 engines?
Thats not charge air pressure! Thats something else!
Someone already mentioned that it's probably oil pressure, so I was commenting on that.

Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

Posted: 08 Jun 2019, 19:52
by Xwang
Are the newer engine components (MGU-H, turbo, etc) installed in Canada a second specification or the same specification as the ones used up to now?

Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

Posted: 09 Jun 2019, 14:07
by PhillipM
sosic2121 wrote:
03 Jun 2019, 19:25
Someone already mentioned that it's probably oil pressure, so I was commenting on that.
Nothing too unusual, some road cars at/near that.

Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

Posted: 09 Jun 2019, 14:13
by sosic2121
PhillipM wrote:
09 Jun 2019, 14:07
sosic2121 wrote:
03 Jun 2019, 19:25
Someone already mentioned that it's probably oil pressure, so I was commenting on that.
Nothing too unusual, some road cars at/near that.
I wasn't aware.
Thank you for enlightening me.

Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

Posted: 27 Jul 2019, 16:41
by Gibbs
https://twitter.com/ScuderiaFerrari/sta ... 9302759425

Unless I'm mistaken throttle bodies or valves before the turbo inlet are banned which means the failure must be waste-gate related?

Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

Posted: 27 Jul 2019, 16:46
by MtthsMlw
To me that sounds like a broken hose or something on the airs way to the turbo compressor side.

Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

Posted: 27 Jul 2019, 17:49
by 63l8qrrfy6
I know they said airflow to the turbo but based on the radio exchange it does sound a lot like a boost leak somewhere.

Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

Posted: 27 Jul 2019, 17:50
by MtthsMlw
Mudflap wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 17:49
I know they said airflow to the turbo but based on the radio exchange it does sound a lot like a boost leak somewhere.
Yep, makes more sense. Binotto clarified that it was related to the intercooler.

Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

Posted: 27 Jul 2019, 19:28
by 63l8qrrfy6
MtthsMlw wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 17:50
Mudflap wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 17:49
I know they said airflow to the turbo but based on the radio exchange it does sound a lot like a boost leak somewhere.
Yep, makes more sense. Binotto clarified that it was related to the intercooler.
At least that's a fairly straightforward fix. The original "bust turbo" diagnosis sounded quite terminal.

Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

Posted: 29 Jul 2019, 20:29
by saviour stivala
A leaking boost air pressure pipe was the cause.

Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

Posted: 02 Aug 2019, 10:25
by MtthsMlw
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Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

Posted: 02 Aug 2019, 19:42
by aleks_ader
I have couple of questions about 2019 Ferrari PU:

1. What is underneath gold foil? And why they dint made intake into plenum from front side? Obviously they dint want to waste volume from tank. But in my opinion installation is more crammed in the middle. Sure they have space above MGUH and in that skiny airbox. Two arc shaped pipes from intercooler should outweigh slight position of tank?

2. For intercooler did they have separate water pump or no? For temperature regulation you use valves, because with speed (also circuit and weather dependant) you have different cooling efficiency in sidepod radiator. Hence you need somehow regulate that intake temperature. Or i m wrong.

EDIT: Or they just regulate water flow rate with orbital water pump. Thats how they cool the engine or i m wrong. I know teams uses that type pumps for decades so i m asking to verify my thoughts.

Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

Posted: 02 Aug 2019, 21:38
by scarbs
1)Inlet manifold
2) separate pump/cooler/radiator

Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 12:08
by Blackout
That means the Ferrari V is incredibly crouded, even more busy than the 2014-2018 PU, because it seems to contain:
-part of the ram air-to-compressor duct, (green in my magnificent drawing) which seems to pass between the intake manifold and the Xenomorph-head-shaped compressor-to-intercooler duct
-part of the intercooler-to-intakemanifold duct (yellow / intercooler is blue)
-part of the inake manifold (purple)
-the MGUH
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