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2014 transmissions

Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 10:50
by George77
Is it true that the 2104 transmissions have a fixed ratios? I mean they are going to use the same rations in Monaco and Monza?

Re: 2014 transmissions

Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 11:39
by wuzak
George77 wrote:Is it true that the 2104 transmissions have a fixed ratios? I mean they are going to use the same rations in Monaco and Monza?
Yes.

Re: 2014 transmissions

Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 13:46
by George77
Why are they doing that to sport?

Re: 2014 transmissions

Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 14:08
by piast9
Do what?

Re: 2014 transmissions

Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 14:23
by George77
Why the have 8 gears if they can not exploit all of them?

Re: 2014 transmissions

Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 14:32
by simieski
George77 wrote:Why the have 8 gears if they can not exploit all of them?
Some tracks they will use all, other tracks they won't. As I understand it the engines power band is over a much wider rev range in comparison to the peaky V8's, so getting gears bang on so that you always stay at the right point of the power curve isn't such an issue.

Re: 2014 transmissions

Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 14:35
by piast9
In my opinion it doesn't do much difference. The fuel flow limited turbo engines have flat power curve at the top. BTW, this topic was discussed at length already http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... =4&t=15586

Re: 2014 transmissions

Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 14:35
by George77
Understood, thanks.

Re: 2014 transmissions

Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 18:53
by Cold Fussion
Image

This image from Cosworth demonstrates pretty well why the gearing wont be a huge issue.

Re: 2014 transmissions

Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 21:07
by autogyro
Cold Fussion wrote:http://s29.postimg.org/cycq3y60l/image000003.jpg

This image from Cosworth demonstrates pretty well why the gearing wont be a huge issue.
It wont be with a conventional layshaft stepped ratio box thats for sure.
If they are content to accept that as the ultimate :wink:

Re: 2014 transmissions

Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 21:44
by rscsr
Cold Fussion wrote:http://s29.postimg.org/cycq3y60l/image000003.jpg

This image from Cosworth demonstrates pretty well why the gearing wont be a huge issue.
It would be nice if you could tell, where this is from.

Re: 2014 transmissions

Posted: 03 Feb 2014, 03:37
by Cold Fussion
rscsr wrote:
Cold Fussion wrote:http://s29.postimg.org/cycq3y60l/image000003.jpg

This image from Cosworth demonstrates pretty well why the gearing wont be a huge issue.
It would be nice if you could tell, where this is from.
http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... =4&t=17720

It's from racecar engineering magazine.

Re: 2014 transmissions

Posted: 03 Feb 2014, 13:21
by rscsr
Cold Fussion wrote:
rscsr wrote:
Cold Fussion wrote:http://s29.postimg.org/cycq3y60l/image000003.jpg

This image from Cosworth demonstrates pretty well why the gearing wont be a huge issue.
It would be nice if you could tell, where this is from.
http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... =4&t=17720

It's from racecar engineering magazine.
no it's not. It is from "race engine technology". Issue #072. And I know it, because I uploaded that graph (and 2 others) on the intercooler thread: http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 42#p478542

Re: 2014 transmissions

Posted: 07 Feb 2014, 10:04
by riff_raff
A lower rev limit, turbocharging, and KERS should lessen the impact of transmission gear ratios.

Re: 2014 transmissions

Posted: 07 Feb 2014, 10:58
by strad
This image from Cosworth demonstrates pretty well why the gearing wont be a huge issue.
Really? And when it's not being assisted? I sure don't read it that way. I don't see it as a broad power band.