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I think this is the first accurate CG rendering of the Ferrari Power unit:

PlatinumZealot wrote:I think this is the first accurate CG rendering of the Ferrari Power unit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e54N4LOu6nU#t=134

That MGU-H looks very fake at time 2:13. I really really doubt the 100,000+ rpm rotor has a commutator and copper windings with lots of turns. This kind of MGU usually has a permanent magnet rotor and the windings (with few turns) are in the stator.

It can have windings both in the stator and the armature... But i only know te basics of motors.. With two winding you can vary the field excitement In addition to the permanent magnet field i guess.

As with all of these CGI renderings there's nothing in there of any technical use, certainly nothing that wasn't common knowledge anyway like the location of the charge cooler.

Somebody (unlucky) will have been tasked with pulling together a load of CAD models that are only vaguely like the real PU (I bet that valve train is from a V8 but cut down) and then modelling up the missing parts. The turbine is particularly bad as it appears to show a twin scroll housing which isn't even legal.

Facts Only wrote:As with all of these CGI renderings there's nothing in there of any technical use, certainly nothing that wasn't common knowledge anyway like the location of the charge cooler.

Somebody (unlucky) will have been tasked with pulling together a load of CAD models that are only vaguely like the real PU (I bet that valve train is from a V8 but cut down) and then modelling up the missing parts. The turbine is particularly bad as it appears to show a twin scroll housing which isn't even legal.

Twin scroll turbines aren't allowed? Since when?

All three used them last year. I'm quite sure that Ferrari and Mercedes still are.

As to teh rendering, I think it is, esentially, the same one that Ferrari showed late in 2013 or early 2014. So mainly indicative, rather than any detail.

wuzak wrote:

Facts Only wrote:As with all of these CGI renderings there's nothing in there of any technical use, certainly nothing that wasn't common knowledge anyway like the location of the charge cooler.

Somebody (unlucky) will have been tasked with pulling together a load of CAD models that are only vaguely like the real PU (I bet that valve train is from a V8 but cut down) and then modelling up the missing parts. The turbine is particularly bad as it appears to show a twin scroll housing which isn't even legal.

Twin scroll turbines aren't allowed? Since when?

All three used them last year. I'm quite sure that Ferrari and Mercedes still are.

As to teh rendering, I think it is, esentially, the same one that Ferrari showed late in 2013 or early 2014. So mainly indicative, rather than any detail.

You have confused twin entry and twin scroll.

PlatinumZealot wrote:I think this is the first accurate CG rendering of the Ferrari Power unit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e54N4LOu6nU#t=134

Its the same animation they used before 2014 season

F1 2014 - Ferrari presenta su motor V6 Turbo 059/3: https://youtu.be/FFkzEwZq9qA

Facts Only wrote:

wuzak wrote:

Facts Only wrote:As with all of these CGI renderings there's nothing in there of any technical use, certainly nothing that wasn't common knowledge anyway like the location of the charge cooler.

Somebody (unlucky) will have been tasked with pulling together a load of CAD models that are only vaguely like the real PU (I bet that valve train is from a V8 but cut down) and then modelling up the missing parts. The turbine is particularly bad as it appears to show a twin scroll housing which isn't even legal.

Twin scroll turbines aren't allowed? Since when?

All three used them last year. I'm quite sure that Ferrari and Mercedes still are.

As to teh rendering, I think it is, esentially, the same one that Ferrari showed late in 2013 or early 2014. So mainly indicative, rather than any detail.

You have confused twin entry and twin scroll.

Mayve.

Surely you can't have twin entry without twin scroll?

And point to the regulation which supposedly bans twin scroll.

Facts Only wrote:You have confused twin entry and twin scroll.

Twin entry and twin scroll are both permitted. Its "multi-stage" that is not allowed.

gruntguru wrote:

Facts Only wrote:You have confused twin entry and twin scroll.

Twin entry and twin scroll are both permitted. Its "multi-stage" that is not allowed.

Can you have twin entry without twin scroll?

wuzak wrote:

gruntguru wrote:

Facts Only wrote:You have confused twin entry and twin scroll.

Twin entry and twin scroll are both permitted. Its "multi-stage" that is not allowed.

Can you have twin entry without twin scroll?

You can have twin entry without twin scroll but it means each volut only covers 180° of the turbine before the tongue section.

I checked the regs and I was wrong, I was thinking of multi-stage. Twin scroll isn't used anyway as like VGT its a hinderance to peak performace and is best suited to application where a much wider operating band is needed.

wuzak wrote:

gruntguru wrote:

Facts Only wrote:You have confused twin entry and twin scroll.

Twin entry and twin scroll are both permitted. Its "multi-stage" that is not allowed.

Can you have twin entry without twin scroll?

Agree, they are pretty much the same thing.

Thunders wrote:Nice look at the ferrari Engine by AMuS from China.

What we see is the back of the engine (I guess)

Not able to make too much sense of what is happening within the V, I think are the intake manifolds.?

F1NAC wrote:

PlatinumZealot wrote:I think this is the first accurate CG rendering of the Ferrari Power unit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e54N4LOu6nU#t=134

Its the same animation they used before 2014 season

F1 2014 - Ferrari presenta su motor V6 Turbo 059/3: https://youtu.be/FFkzEwZq9qA

Watch the video beacuae the engines shown in the two animations are very different. Boths versions are obviously not cad models, possibly just maya or 3d studio, but this version is more accurate.

WilliamsF1 wrote:

Thunders wrote:Nice look at the ferrari Engine by AMuS from China.

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Sau ... 855615.jpg

What we see is the back of the engine (I guess)

Not able to make too much sense of what is happening within the V, I think are the intake manifolds.?

They will be probably be throttle bodies, as the air-water intercooler sits in the vee.