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I've found this picture of the Toyota car running at Jerez:

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The gills were always like this? or this is something new? They barely cover anything. What's the point?
At the Nurburgring they had the chimneys closed, but maintained their thickness, which seemed to me a little bit unprofessional. Cooling issues?
and also:
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Red-Bull keeps trying the Ferrari mirrors solution. My guess is that they know it works better, but the drivers aren't comfortable with it, although its Buemi in the picture.

FLC wrote:The gills were always like this?

Looks like they managed to fit another V8 there, so the grill are designed to cool 2 engines

Hungary is generally hot, and there is little time to cool the engines...

The straight isnt especialy long, and the track is corner after corner... the engine works hard at mid range here, though top speed is slow.

There is an extreme heatwave in Hungary right now, 45-50 degrees. I would say any cooling would be worth inevitable drag penalty.

500 people died in Hungary in the previous 7 days from the heat. If you wonder why I wasn't posting for a week now you know the reason. It was 43 outside of the cities, 45 in the city centers and 55 in the sun. It was the record temperature of all times.

Nice photo of the Red Bull. Who took it?

Very off topic I know. But welcome back to the Forum Manchild. Sorry to hear of the tragic deaths caused by the heatwave in your country. Such deaths occur here ... although in smaller numbers; each Summer.

On a lighter note - several threads have asked for your contributions

Thanks Carlos,

People died all over the east and south-east Europe with a difference that some governments admitted the number of victims while some keep hiding it to avoid responsibility for doing nothing to help people and alarm them on time (not to mention giving fake temperature and weather forecast data). Politicians - professional parasites...

Sorry for off topic guys.

It's even in the news reports over here in Canada...where they were saying that it is even close to 60 degrees ground temperature... If the temperatures stay like that...I wonder what could be the track temperature at the next GP

whoa at temp
and sorry to hear that manchild

but on a lighter note, looks like Honda saved the best till last, today, on the final day of testing they tested a tri-plane front wing, and were quite quick !

Not just the wing.

Look at the huge grills again... now by Honda

As seen in Monaco

Btw, they tested another wing on the first two days.

Also their best time improvement over the test was nearly 2seconds

It seems the the alledged request by Nick Fry to make the Honda "look like a McLaren" is working, the new triple plane front wing mimics theirs. It seems its just the exhaust outlet positions and the bargeboard that are left to copy.

manchild wrote:500 people died in Hungary in the previous 7 days from the heat. If you wonder why I wasn't posting for a week now you know the reason. It was 43 outside of the cities, 45 in the city centers and 55 in the sun. It was the record temperature of all times.

I know what you're talking about! I lost my grand mother during the 2003 summer's canicula. At Paris we had up to 55°C, and I live just under the roof at seventh floor. Believe me or not (given your situation, you should believe me...), but one of those day I had a 64°C here! I was naked with a fan blowing on me but still I seemed to melt, big drops of sweat falling off every seconds.
Damn, this year we have a crapy July, with lots of rain and under-average temps, but I won't complain for sure!
Hold on mate. Rain will come.

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Back to topic, I read a report where F.Montagny explain they tested the car without TC, in prevision of 2008. I don't think the cooling slots are related to that, because high expected Hungarian temperatures are enough to explain it, but I noticed the Toyota was second fastest that day, although Frank complained it was obviously sliding very much. Still, Jerez is kind of twisty layout, so triggering off the TC should have send them to the very end of the timesheet, don't you think?

scarbs wrote:It seems the the alledged request by Nick Fry to make the Honda "look like a McLaren" is working, the new triple plane front wing mimics theirs. It seems its just the exhaust outlet positions and the bargeboard that are left to copy.

Sheesh, you're right you know! I just wasn't paying too much attention, but now that I look at it, it's "McEarthcar", isn't it? Perhaps not the best time to be copying ideas even if it's done via "legitimate" passive observation, considering that people are pretty jumpy about all this "spy" stuff at the moment.