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Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:26 pm

What track do you think F1 could go to in the US? And it is up to Bernie's standards

Include pics etc.

im concerned though that we will see another famous track dropped. We have Korea next year? i think it is. No France yet a replacement is rumored, Russia is rumoured.

Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:40 pm

To my mind, there's only one track in the US, Road America, Elkhart Lake. Imagine an F1 race like that!

Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:13 pm

from an economics standpoint BE only talks about NY and the only option when it comes to that is Watkins glen or a temporary circuit possibly at Flloyd Bennet field in Brooklyn , but that is now a national park.

Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:14 pm

Road America is an amazing track.... stuck in the middle of nowhere.

Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:45 pm

ISLAMATRON wrote:from an economics standpoint BE only talks about NY and the only option when it comes to that is Watkins glen or a temporary circuit possibly at Flloyd Bennet field in Brooklyn , but that is now a national park.

I think he was referring to New York City.

The Glen is a wonderful, challenging course, but it is light years away from FIA's absurd standards -- and so is Elkhart Lake. In fact (IMHO) only Indy meets those standards, with (maybe) Daytona a realistic economic alternative. (But NOT an esthetic alternative!)

Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:02 pm

Whilst Bernie's standards are excessive in some areas, there have to be minimum spectator facilities, safety requirements and the like. Some venues would be vastly inappropriate for safety reasons, others for commercial reasons.

Of the areas that the US GP could do well in, New York and LA would be the right sort of places. Las Vegas would be a very Bernie idea, and Chicago could be an outsider.

If Floyd Bennett Field isn't possible for NY/NJ, aren't there lots of aerodromes in the NY area, specifically on Long Island? All that's needed is a logical place for a pit lane and permission to close roads - and someone to stump up the sanctioning fee.

Daytona is not a circuit where a road course could be built easily, as it would be a start from scratch operation - F1 cars on 33 degree banking is a non-starter.

Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:06 pm

I'll cast my vote for Virginia International Raceway, but it's basically the American version of Magny-Cours: middle of nowhere. Streets of Philadelphia would be my dream choice.

VIR:

Dukeage wrote:Daytona is not a circuit where a road course could be built easily, as it would be a start from scratch operation - F1 cars on 33 degree banking is a non-starter.

Um, dude, Daytona has a road course, they run the 24 Hours of Daytona there. It's a lot like the Indy course minus the terrible road surface.

Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:21 pm

jon-mullen wrote:
Dukeage wrote:Daytona is not a circuit where a road course could be built easily, as it would be a start from scratch operation - F1 cars on 33 degree banking is a non-starter.

Um, dude, Daytona has a road course, they run the 24 Hours of Daytona there. It's a lot like the Indy course minus the terrible road surface.

Yes but the road course still uses the banked part of the track and there is no way around using it.

Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:27 pm

and indy didnt?..

Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:44 pm

Yeah, the Daytona banking is more extreme than Indy...and the road course uses turns 2, 3, 4 and the tri-oval...my mistake, I guess it would be tougher than Indy.

Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:47 pm

Indy has 9 degrees of banking, Daytona 31 degrees... Plus Daytona is extremely bumpy.

Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:34 pm

Indy is definitely one of the least banked highspeed oval.....

Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:47 pm

As much as I would love it to be in NYC, I don't think it is even plausible. Our Mayor would not accept Bernie's demands for sure. Besides, I don't think NYC roads are that good for that matter. Now, as far as NYC suburbs, I don't know what to tell you in all honesty.

I'd love if it is Watkins Glen, but their paddock area must be upgraded significantly, which can be done if they really want to and Bernie does not demand massive amounts of cash to put the race there.

Road America might be a great course, but it's in the middle of nowhere and from the Google satellite photos looks like teams must bring their own trailers to work on the cars. It's just not up to standard. Besides, who would want to travel North of Milwaukee for a race?

So it has to be somewhere on the coasts.

Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:51 pm

Wouldn't be the first time Ferraris were blasting up the FDR.

Maybe Ratner could clear some space in the Atlantic Yard project.

hmmm I always forget that Staten Island is technically part of NYC... they got plenty of land out there... but it does smell a little funny.

But something around Battery park would be cool.

Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:09 pm

What about Long Beach? Too CART?

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