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[PlatinumZealot]

So Adrian Newey and Lewis to Ferrari. The new "Lewis thread" should be fun next year!!

[CHT]

So Adrian Newey and Lewis to Ferrari. The new "Lewis thread" should be fun next year!!

say who?

[Luscion]

So Adrian Newey and Lewis to Ferrari. The new "Lewis thread" should be fun next year!!

say who?

all rumors so far but...

Ferrari is currently in pole position for Adrian Newey after leaving Red Bull.

Ferrari has prepared $100 million for a 4 year contract, where Newey will serve as a "Super Consultant" in the Maranello technical division.

Newey is seriously considering this offer and it is suspected that he is more interested in Ferrari's offer than Aston Martin or Mercedes.

[Lasssept]

The Sun are reporting that Mercedes are preparing a £128m offer for Max Verstappen

[Farnborough]

Apparently, $160 million per annum to MV from MB team

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1047716/1 ... s-hamilton

Desperate times at MB ..... no trust in GR or Antonelli ?

It is reported via the "super soar away Sun" news rag though, a fine upstanding publisher of "facts"

[Mosin123]

So Adrian Newey and Lewis to Ferrari. The new "Lewis thread" should be fun next year!!

say who?

all rumors so far but...

Ferrari is currently in pole position for Adrian Newey after leaving Red Bull.

Ferrari has prepared $100 million for a 4 year contract, where Newey will serve as a "Super Consultant" in the Maranello technical division.

Newey is seriously considering this offer and it is suspected that he is more interested in Ferrari's offer than Aston Martin or Mercedes.

LH's switch to Ferrari looks like another brilliant move, 8 time champion for 2026? a year after Neway get his fingers on Ferraris car?

[Mosin123]

Apparently, $160 million per annum to MV from MB team

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1047716/1 ... s-hamilton

Desperate times at MB ..... no trust in GR or Antonelli ?

It is reported via the "super soar away Sun" news rag though, a fine upstanding publisher of "facts"

he will earn them more than that back in social media posts, sponsorships and so on.

I cant picture MV leaving Redbull though tbh, but then Redbull looks like its falling apart

[hollus]

Pay attention, Mercedes team thread here.
Less red and blue teams, thanks.

[Cs98]

150 million is such a ridiculous number, but I guess desperate times breed desperate measures. If they think Max is the golden ticket the team needs to get back to the top then it could make sense. But that number is so far beyond anything we've ever heard I struggle to believe it.

[Seanspeed]

$150m/y is beyond absurd. That's literally higher than the cost cap in F1. I dont believe that at all. Max is highly valuable, but not that much.

[Vanja #66]

It's exactly the move a TP who lacks in-depth understanding on what is needed for long-term success in F1, like Toto, would make

He's trying to copy what Vasseur and Elkann did with Ferrari and Hamilton and make it more outrageous on paper, but Elkann first changed the TP before letting the "new guy" rebuild the team

[TeamKoolGreen]

Apparently, $160 million per annum to MV from MB team

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1047716/1 ... s-hamilton

Desperate times at MB ..... no trust in GR or Antonelli ?

This again ? If there was no trust in Russell, why didn't Hamilton get a 5+ year deal in 2021 ?

An opportunity has presented itself with the civil war at Red Bull. And Toto is trying to take advantage of it.

Toto's focus really should be elsewhere. He has to hunker down and manage this down cycle that the team is in.

[stonehenge]

Not saying $150 million a year isn't an absurd amount of money, BUT:

The value of getting Verstappen is *not only* him driving for you, it's also him *not driving for Red Bull*!

Verstappen is not only the best driver, meaning you boost your chances of winning, but without him, Red Bull's chances of winning are significantly reduced. In other words, getting Verstappen from Red Bull immediately and significantly increases your chances to win (this is true for all teams, not just Mercedes, btw.)

Given that the top teams used to spend like 400-500 million pre cost cap, spending that much on Verstappen is the easiest way of significantly increasing your chances to win while staying under the cost cap. It's an absurd amount of money, but that doesn't mean it's not smart or economically sound.

[Just_a_fan]

Not saying $150 million a year isn't an absurd amount of money, BUT:

The value of getting Verstappen is *not only* him driving for you, it's also him *not driving for Red Bull*!

Verstappen is not only the best driver, meaning you boost your chances of winning, but without him, Red Bull's chances of winning are significantly reduced. In other words, getting Verstappen from Red Bull immediately and significantly increases your chances to win (this is true for all teams, not just Mercedes, btw.)

Given that the top teams used to spend like 400-500 million pre cost cap, spending that much on Verstappen is the easiest way of significantly increasing your chances to win while staying under the cost cap. It's an absurd amount of money, but that doesn't mean it's not smart or economically sound.

Someone has bought into the "driver outperforms his car" idea.

No point paying $100m for a driver if the car is not good enough. The Red Bull is half a second or more quicker than the rest - that's simple physics. No driver can go faster than the car is able to go, doesn't matter who it is. All the best drivers do is get closer to the car's pace and they do it consistently.

Max in the Merc isn't winning titles.

[dialtone]

I think getting Max is a great move but are they able to extract the performance from the car? If they can’t then having him is just a waste of money, you get him to win.