2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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equally encouraged about the tp speed, but about the rearwing they havent gone heavy on rear df at all, the opposite i think

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with this also suggesting less loaded wing



CjC wrote:
04 May 2024, 10:59
I think top speed is the most encouraging thing from this upgrade. 341kph I’ve seen for Norris. 337kph for Piastri.
They also said the Mclaren is running quite a loaded rear wing too
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f1rules wrote:
04 May 2024, 11:49
equally encouraged about the tp speed, but about the rearwing they havent gone heavy on rear df at all, the opposite i think

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMuFhOSWkAA ... =4096x4096


CjC wrote:
04 May 2024, 10:59
I think top speed is the most encouraging thing from this upgrade. 341kph I’ve seen for Norris. 337kph for Piastri.
They also said the Mclaren is running quite a loaded rear wing too
No it's the Australia wing, they aren't going heavy on wing load.

I was suggesting before miami that the bigger rear wing was used because they needed to load the front, not because they needed more df at the rear.

A stronger front should mean we get a few kph back from running less wing all over.
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AMG.Tzan wrote:
04 May 2024, 09:06
Wow

This is starting to look like the McLaren of the good old days back in 2007-2012 when they were always bringing big updates that always worked and brought a big step forwards! Nice from McLaren although Norris pretty much destroyed his own chances with that first sector!

Hopefully Qualifying can go better for them because starting from 9th in the Sprint won’t get you anywhere near the podium…
You could, why not !
I think the boys can make few overtakes and if lucky either one of them can be podium contender in the sprint

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Guys, here's a question: everyone has 11 sets of tires, both fresh and used. During sprint weekends, how many kits are given out? Also 13 or 11?

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LionsHeart wrote:
04 May 2024, 12:40
Guys, here's a question: everyone has 11 sets of tires, both fresh and used. During sprint weekends, how many kits are given out? Also 13 or 11?
12

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Tomsky wrote:
04 May 2024, 12:41
LionsHeart wrote:
04 May 2024, 12:40
Guys, here's a question: everyone has 11 sets of tires, both fresh and used. During sprint weekends, how many kits are given out? Also 13 or 11?
12
That is, one free set of soft is missing, which is usually issued in the 3rd qualification segment?

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f1rules wrote:
04 May 2024, 11:49
equally encouraged about the tp speed, but about the rearwing they havent gone heavy on rear df at all, the opposite i think

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMuFhOSWkAA ... =4096x4096

with this also suggesting less loaded wing


CjC wrote:
04 May 2024, 10:59
I think top speed is the most encouraging thing from this upgrade. 341kph I’ve seen for Norris. 337kph for Piastri.
They also said the Mclaren is running quite a loaded rear wing too
Including thanks to the unloaded beam wing.

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LionsHeart wrote:
04 May 2024, 12:45
Tomsky wrote:
04 May 2024, 12:41
LionsHeart wrote:
04 May 2024, 12:40
Guys, here's a question: everyone has 11 sets of tires, both fresh and used. During sprint weekends, how many kits are given out? Also 13 or 11?
12
That is, one free set of soft is missing, which is usually issued in the 3rd qualification segment?
One set of the team is given after the first practice.

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Tomsky wrote:
04 May 2024, 12:49
LionsHeart wrote:
04 May 2024, 12:45
Tomsky wrote:
04 May 2024, 12:41

12
That is, one free set of soft is missing, which is usually issued in the 3rd qualification segment?
One set of the team is given after the first practice.
Yes, I already understood this, since I see 11 remaining sets at my disposal. What I mean is that on a typical race weekend there are only 13 sets, one of which is given out in Q3.

Ok, understood! Thank you.

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f1rules wrote:
04 May 2024, 11:49
equally encouraged about the tp speed, but about the rearwing they havent gone heavy on rear df at all, the opposite i think

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMuFhOSWkAA ... =4096x4096

with this also suggesting less loaded wing



CjC wrote:
04 May 2024, 10:59
I think top speed is the most encouraging thing from this upgrade. 341kph I’ve seen for Norris. 337kph for Piastri.
They also said the Mclaren is running quite a loaded rear wing too
Thanks!
The track map is using Norris’ data.
I wonder if they used Piastri’s SQ3 lap for the DRS efficiency X post or not?

Needless to say it’s been awhile since Mclaren have been so fast on the straight and competitive over the whole lap, suggesting the upgrade has far more efficient downforce that previous McLarens👍🏻
Just a fan's point of view

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The car's behaviour looks vastly different to before the updates, planted front end. We should be able to update our evaluation of McLaren favourable tracks from here on, hopefully no weak tracks. What a revolution it appears at this early stage.

Further to LionsHeart on surface temperature vs carcass/sidewall temperature of the tyres in SQ3, makes perfect sense. How else would performance be recovered quick enough to purple sector 3. I concede we are still getting excited with minimal data but to get the radically updated car in the window (mostly) in the short running time is impressive. Points to strong correlation = understanding of the car is still well connected. Let's see if the drivers can make progress through the slower cars ahead on the Miami layout. The top speeds would point to us having a chance to get both cars into the top 5 or 6 in the 19 laps of the Sprint.

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eurwynf1 wrote:
04 May 2024, 11:08
I'm excited for the race, we finally have a DRS benefit to pass people, could be a belter to watch
The car still does not have an efficient DRS. We are just quite a bit faster all along the straight that the DRS inefficiency doesn't hurt us as much, but other cars close the gap on our top speed and some surpass our top speed once DRS is open. I don't think these changes have tackled the DRS inefficiency yet. The ability of the car to exit corners quicker will also help.
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Tomsky wrote:
03 May 2024, 17:41
mwillems wrote:
03 May 2024, 16:33
Tomsky wrote:
20 Mar 2024, 12:05

To change the geometry of the suspension, you need to pass a crash test. It's unrealistic.
Totally realistic in fact 🤣
What has changed in the suspension, apart from the aerodynamic pads? Have the mounting points remained the same or have they changed?
Changed.
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In the meantime I'm hearing that Williams is also trying to get Newey back. It's not that I don't have faith in the current technical team as since yesterday they have proven they can be championship winners even without Newey and I know Zak Brown also shares that faith but on the other hand would it be bad to obtain something more?

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mwillems wrote:
04 May 2024, 14:44
Tomsky wrote:
03 May 2024, 17:41
mwillems wrote:
03 May 2024, 16:33


Totally realistic in fact 🤣
What has changed in the suspension, apart from the aerodynamic pads? Have the mounting points remained the same or have they changed?
Changed.
The aerodynamic pads have been changed, all mounting points are unchanged. To change the attachment points to the monocoque, you need to pass a crash test.