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scuderiabrandon wrote:
16 May 2024, 09:29
More spanwise loading as well. Look at the radius of corner where main plane and endplate meet. A more cambered profile near the endplate but with a shorter chord length.
Yeah, I was still editing my post while you wrote this :D A very substantial endplate and flap tip change actually, definitely improving the efficiency of the rear wing.
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Looks almost like an old school barge board:

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Is it just the angle of this picture, or do the two inner most floor mouth strakes look like they practically converge at the bottom?

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JPBD1990 wrote:
16 May 2024, 13:00


Is it just the angle of this picture, or do the two inner most floor mouth strakes look like they practically converge at the bottom?
Just the angle of the picture and the respective shapes of the two components make it look like they converge.
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Is this actually a credible explanation? I saw people discussing this detail after the images from Fiorano…

“A small crack has appeared on the SF-24 EVO to accelerate the flows towards the rear

A modification that "plays" with the boundary layer on the body of the SF-24 to improve aerodynamic efficiency”

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JPBD1990 wrote:
16 May 2024, 13:14


Is this actually a credible explanation? I saw people discussing this detail after the images from Fiorano…

“A small crack has appeared on the SF-24 EVO to accelerate the flows towards the rear

A modification that "plays" with the boundary layer on the body of the SF-24 to improve aerodynamic efficiency”
Not credible. It’s a simply closed louver

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christian.falavena wrote:
16 May 2024, 13:41
JPBD1990 wrote:
16 May 2024, 13:14


Is this actually a credible explanation? I saw people discussing this detail after the images from Fiorano…

“A small crack has appeared on the SF-24 EVO to accelerate the flows towards the rear

A modification that "plays" with the boundary layer on the body of the SF-24 to improve aerodynamic efficiency”
Not credible. It’s a simply closed louver
If it was a closed louver, it should be smooth. The edge vanishes as you look towards the back.
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Luscion wrote:
16 May 2024, 11:45
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The new flap tip twist plays to the tune of lateral flow that is the new normal for these wings. By twisting it towards the tip and extending the flap leading edge forward, that leading edge is aligned to the lateral direction of the local flow. Lateral flow can generate a substantial amount of downforce with a very small drag penalty.

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Luscion wrote:
16 May 2024, 11:45
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I do so love being a prophet :mrgreen:

Vanja #66 wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 22:41
For all the complaints of the launch car being simple, it's now clear why not going fully committed with a single type of inlet solution was the right thing to do. Every other Top 5 car features a different inlet philosophy and Alpine has a peculiar arch tunnel in the undercut, so now Ferrari can gather info and chose the best way for their future development direction. On top of that, their sidepods can likely be shrink wrapped a bit.
However, the S duct is not gone we should note, there is a separate edge inside the vertical slit now, so they might be scraping the boundary layer and feeding the air inside without an actual internal ducting. Hopefully we get a side view without bodywork soon

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Xyz22 wrote:
16 May 2024, 12:30
Vanja why do you think Ferrari didn't make significant changes to the front wing despite changing a lot in the middle and rear areas of the car?
The launch wing obviously works fine, it's not a compromised base design like launch-23 wing was. After Austria, it also wasn't changed (other than required changes to flaps for extreme high/low-df tracks) last year. Front wing is not a differentiator if it works fine, it's there to add some efficient front downforce, condition the flow to the rear and provide stable balance at different speeds and corners. Not an easy task for those teams that keep changing it 3 years into a regulation cycle. Hint - I'm not thinking of McLaren, they kept using last year's wing until Miami, that's how good it worked for them :wink:

RB20 has the same wing philosophy as RB19 even if it was changed in terms of sidepod flow conditioning. Front wings have become red herrings with new rules, floor is King and obviously sidepods and engine cover are second biggest performance differentiators. Rear wings can be improved by using different flap tip trims as well. If there was no performance in these 3 areas, teams wouldn't be changing them.
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It's an opening:

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