Silly season 2010

[richard_leeds]

Hi new to the forum, just want to point out something I came across.

http://totalf1.com/full_story/view/3290 ... ion_to_F1/

Whoever signs him will have the cash for all the logistics the season will ask for.

I'm thinking he'll end up in Campos, although Renault are probably seriously considering as well. Supposedly he's not a bad driver.

Welcome to the forum.

It helps to give a bit more explanation in a post....

GP2 driver Vitaly Petrov is hoping to land one of the remaining seats in Formula One this year by offering €15 million (US$21 million) for a drive.

He finished as runner-up in last year's GP2 championship to Williams driver Nico Hulkenberg and has been in talks with Renault and Campos about a drive for the upcoming season. His personal sponsorship comes from Moscow-based bank Sberbank and Gazprom, the largest extractor of natural gas in the world, according to Geman newspaper Bild. His backing would equate to €800,000 (US$1.1 million) a race for the team that takes him on.

Petrov is looked after by Michael Schumacher's manager Willi Weber

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Renault team principal Eric Boullier said that Petrov's money was not the only reason he was considering him.

"People say we are only looking at Petrov because he is bringing a lot of money, but he is not the richest driver we are talking to," Boullier said. "We must not forget he came second in the GP2 championship in 2009. His talent alone is more than enough to secure him an F1 drive."

Not the richest? Who else is flashing the sponsorship cash?

[ESPImperium]

Hi new to the forum, just want to point out something I came across.

http://totalf1.com/full_story/view/3290 ... ion_to_F1/

Whoever signs him will have the cash for all the logistics the season will ask for.

I'm thinking he'll end up in Campos, although Renault are probably seriously considering as well. Supposedly he's not a bad driver.

Welcome to the forum.

It helps to give a bit more explanation in a post....

GP2 driver Vitaly Petrov is hoping to land one of the remaining seats in Formula One this year by offering €15 million (US$21 million) for a drive.

He finished as runner-up in last year's GP2 championship to Williams driver Nico Hulkenberg and has been in talks with Renault and Campos about a drive for the upcoming season. His personal sponsorship comes from Moscow-based bank Sberbank and Gazprom, the largest extractor of natural gas in the world, according to Geman newspaper Bild. His backing would equate to €800,000 (US$1.1 million) a race for the team that takes him on.

Petrov is looked after by Michael Schumacher's manager Willi Weber

<snip>

Renault team principal Eric Boullier said that Petrov's money was not the only reason he was considering him.

"People say we are only looking at Petrov because he is bringing a lot of money, but he is not the richest driver we are talking to," Boullier said. "We must not forget he came second in the GP2 championship in 2009. His talent alone is more than enough to secure him an F1 drive."

Not the richest? Who else is flashing the sponsorship cash?

One driver that i think could be an outsider for the Renault seat could be Bertrand Baguette, if you are wanting a rich driver, it has been said that he has some cash to flash for 2010.

And im sure that theres more drivers with more cash than him.

[ESPImperium]

Current entrylist as i have it:

[sticky667]

out of curiosity, Why do you have Senna and DLR as #2 drivers? I would think Senna would be the lead and DLR is the veteran over Kobayashi.

[ESPImperium]

out of curiosity, Why do you have Senna and DLR as #2 drivers? I would think Senna would be the lead and DLR is the veteran over Kobayashi.

Senna signed as a #2 driver, and is so in the FIA Entry list as of 30/11/2009, HERE: http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pr ... _list.aspx

As for De La Rosa, i have him as #2 as he was signed second, and as is the un written rule that teams prefer the highest points total from the previous year as their #1 for the next season, unless they have a phobia over even numbers.

[Fil]

Yeah, Senna requested #21 specifically, and Kobayashi was already allocated the lower number by BMW-Sauber on the initial FIA 2010 list.

I can't believe the BMW name hasn't been dropped, or that it wasn't part of the Peter Sauber takeover deal!
That no process has even been begun by the team to request a late change is astounding!

[ESPImperium]

Yeah, Senna requested #21 specifically, and Kobayashi was already allocated the lower number by BMW-Sauber on the initial FIA 2010 list.

I can't believe the BMW name hasn't been dropped, or that it wasn't part of the Peter Sauber takeover deal!
That no process has even been begun by the team to request a late change is astounding!

The BMW Sauber name change is only a formality, all it really is is a pice of paperwork, followed by a $35,000 fee to the FIA seemingly. In reality a couple hours work total from all involved.

[WhiteBlue]

Yeah, Senna requested #21 specifically, and Kobayashi was already allocated the lower number by BMW-Sauber on the initial FIA 2010 list.

I can't believe the BMW name hasn't been dropped, or that it wasn't part of the Peter Sauber takeover deal!
That no process has even been begun by the team to request a late change is astounding!

The BMW Sauber name change is only a formality, all it really is is a pice of paperwork, followed by a $35,000 fee to the FIA seemingly. In reality a couple hours work total from all involved.

I believe you are in error there. According to the Concord a team name change has to receive the approval of all other teams. In the past these things have been used as bargaining chips and Peter probably knows he will not waste resources and work on changing that before he comes up with another title sponsor who will pay for it to have the name changed. It is entirely rational to keep the name to avoid a double change.

[ESPImperium]

Yeah, Senna requested #21 specifically, and Kobayashi was already allocated the lower number by BMW-Sauber on the initial FIA 2010 list.

I can't believe the BMW name hasn't been dropped, or that it wasn't part of the Peter Sauber takeover deal!
That no process has even been begun by the team to request a late change is astounding!

The BMW Sauber name change is only a formality, all it really is is a pice of paperwork, followed by a $35,000 fee to the FIA seemingly. In reality a couple hours work total from all involved.

I believe you are in error there. According to the Concord a team name change has to receive the approval of all other teams. In the past these things have been used as bargaining chips and Peter probably knows he will not waste resources and work on changing that before he comes up with another title sponsor who will pay for it to have the name changed. It is entirely rational to keep the name to avoid a double change.

I think we are both right, i forgot about the Concorde thing, but the papaerwork and fee also happens. And i aggree that why change the name twice, when once a title sponsor is found, use that to change the team name then.

Im thinking Panasonic could be the title sponsor here, with the Nespresso brand coning as the secondry sponsor with a few other sponsors as well.

There are sponsors out there, and Sauber will be a shrewd buy in for the 2010 season i think.

[Confused_Andy]

Yeah, Senna requested #21 specifically, and Kobayashi was already allocated the lower number by BMW-Sauber on the initial FIA 2010 list.

I can't believe the BMW name hasn't been dropped, or that it wasn't part of the Peter Sauber takeover deal!
That no process has even been begun by the team to request a late change is astounding!

The BMW Sauber name change is only a formality, all it really is is a pice of paperwork, followed by a $35,000 fee to the FIA seemingly. In reality a couple hours work total from all involved.

Your forgetting a change in livery, clothing and all promotional material. Could run into thousands of £££'s which I expect Sauber would rather keep.

[Fil]

The BMW Sauber name change is only a formality, all it really is is a pice of paperwork, followed by a $35,000 fee to the FIA seemingly. In reality a couple hours work total from all involved.

Your forgetting a change in livery, clothing and all promotional material. Could run into thousands of £££'s which I expect Sauber would rather keep.

Livery, Clothing, promo stuff, garage fittings, truck liveries, motorhomes etc will have to change anyway - at the very least because their ex-title sponsor jumped bandwagons.

[WhiteBlue]

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/27012010/ ... -deal.html?

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Paul will be running, I believe, in the majority of the Friday sessions at grand prix weekends for Force India. I’m happy for him. He’s going to push like hell to make his case to have a race drive at Force India during the course of this year....
We think of Nick very highly, and are surprised that within the German media he is perhaps not so highly-considered.

Di Resta is practically confirmed at Force India. Of course the Heidfeld quote is nothing but Bullshit. Nick is considered very highly but he can obviously not compete with Michael Schumacher for a Mercedes race seat.

Ricciardo and Hartley were confirmed yesterday to alternate at RBR and STR as reserves.

McLaren = Button/Hamilton - Paffett
Mercedes = Schumacher/Rosberg - Heidfeld
Red Bull = Vettel/Webber - Ricciardo/Hartley
Ferarri = Massa/Alonso - Fisichella/Gene
Williams = Barrichello/Hulkenberg - Soucek
Renault = Kubica/Petrov - Ho Ping Tung
Force India = Sutil/Liuzzi - Di Resta
Toro Rosso = Buemi/Alguersuari - Ricciardo/Hartley
Lotus = Trulli/Kovalainen - Fauzy
Campos = tba/Senna - tba
USF1 = Lopez/tba- tba
Virgin = Glock/Di Grassi - Parente/Razia
Sauber = Kobayashi/De La Rosa - tba

[Fil]

Petrov is now beginning to be linked very heavily in a lot of lower-spec European (namely French & Hungarian) websites.. either a dodgy source they've all jumped on, or there's genuine knowledge filtering thru.

though there is a real dodgy rumour also doing the rounds that Kubica spoke to Buemi recently & said he doesn't want to work with Heidfeld again, effectively boycotting him of the Renault drive, and that Villeneuve will get it..

[vyselegend]

according to several french sites and magazines, Renault signed Petrov as #2 indeed, and Ho ping Tung as third driver.

Still not official but some of the sources, like autohebdo are quite solid and not adepts of spreading rumors, so I buy it as a done deal...

[WhiteBlue]

though there is a real dodgy rumour also doing the rounds that Kubica spoke to Buemi recently & said he doesn't want to work with Heidfeld again, effectively boycotting him of the Renault drive, and that Villeneuve will get it..

Villeneuve at Renault would not make much sense. He hasn't exactly covered himself in glory at Sauber the last time out and he isn't rumored to carry much sponsorship. I wouldn't mind having five F1 champs on the grid though. Villeneuve would make more sense for USF1 with their quest for American drivers. Even there he would find it difficult without some fat sponsorship.