Camber Limit?

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Post Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:19 am

Comparisons between F1 and NASCAR tyres?

A NASCAR Goodyear is a whole lot stiffer and tougher than an F1 tire.
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Post Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:48 am

My apologies, I was questioning the comparison rather than asking for one. :)
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Post Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:17 pm

raymondu999 wrote:I don't get it. Are the Pirellis structurally that weak? I doubt teams were using less than 3 degrees of camber last year and we never saw problems like this. Ironically would that not then translate to a safety issue, that the window in which you can push the camber of the tyres? As JT likes to point out NASCAR uses much more; or is it that the loadings on NASCAR tyres just that much less? I mean, they probably produce lift from the cars in NASCAR rather than downforce, but surely the banking and pounding the tyres take should go a bit to equalizing that?


Stock cars do generate downforce.
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Post Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:33 pm

My mistake; I didn't know that. Don't follow NASCAR. Anyways; my point being; how much is the load different?
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Post Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:26 pm

Good question. Can't say I'm familiar with a typical F1 load trace. If I had to guess.. as much or more.
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Post Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:49 am

mx_tifosi wrote:Changing camber would only serve to optimize the contact patch and not the aero drag since it doesn't change the actual shape of the tyre would it not? You still have the same dimensions of the contact patch facing forwards but just not all of it rolling across the ground,as I understand it.


What I'm suggesting is that if the contact patch is thinner laterally, then it allows a gap where the air has a chance to get under the tire without being forced sideways. Which *may* reduce drag. I would think it would at least reduce lift. How much I have no clue.
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