The Latest Lotus/Team Lotus Chapter

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Post Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:56 pm

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95088

Looks like the naming rights will be dragged on a good bit longer with Ferrari, Sauber and HRT dragging their heels.

The reasoning id recon is this:

Ferrari = Thinks that Group Lotus and Bahar could damage the sports immage and thus dosnt want the team to become Lotus-Renatlt and would rather it was kept as Lotus Renault GP with Lotus as the title sponsor and not team owner. This wouldnt mean anything to Renault Sport who supply the engines as they dont fget any payment from prise moneys, just paid the €10m a season for engine and KERS supply.

Sauber = Want to force Lotus Renault GP into a chamge of chassis name so that they can get more monet in the constructors title, even if they dont overhaul Force India, they will still be better off by arround €5m to €6m.

HRT = Same as sauber, but for Team Lotus, as they would love to get their hands on at least €53m prise monet they would get for P10 in the constructors title, and im sure that €53m for Hispania would be a gold mine of money that could and would be invested in making their car faster, as by the old rule; .3 of a second faster coosts €10m, so this would be roughly a minimum 1.5 seconds to them???

I can see Team Lotus being renamed Team Caterham-Renault or Caterham-Renault, but i can see Ferrari and Sauber getting their way with Renault and force them to take the voulentary change and drop the €65m prise money plus the €20m historical payment. The historical payment would then be passed to Mercedes i belive, not Red Bull as i thought it would be.

Whats everyones thoughts???
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Post Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:34 pm

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I would like to see Lotus continue to do what they appear to be doing, which is nothing more than what D. Hobbs reminded me of in P2 in HD. That is; ‘being competitive in three years’ challenging midfield. I’m not too worried about the name, although it should be cool. 8)
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Post Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:54 am

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HRT are needing the money, but are also wanting to change their name as well ESP? anymore on that?
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Post Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:12 pm

The other day on Lotus Cars facebook page they said : Lotus Racing GP, and they then corrected it to Lotus Renault GP,

They have now launched a kart racing team called Lotus Racing Karts,

could Lotus Racing the name be coming back with Lotus Renault GP? Or will Lotus Renault GP be called Team Lotus next season, or stay as Lotus Renault GP
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Post Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:47 am

There was a report that Genii might be buying into Group Lotus

http://paultan.org/2011/10/10/gerard-lo ... oup-lotus/
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Post Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:29 am

If an average fan can understand all that confusion that's written down in only a few posts here, I will eat my hat - and exactly that's the big problem why it shouldn't be allowed for a team to change name so frequently. I'm pretty much informed regarding F1, but it was hard task to understand all this mess.
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Post Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:13 pm

Now that it has been resolved, team lotus = caterham, LRGP = lotus, I wonder if team lotus will keep the green and yellow
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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:32 pm

LRGP > Lotus will surely continue with the black and gold livery, which would be a good thing for people to know it's the same team as this year.

Team Lotus > Caterham will be the name of the actual chassis. I would think they will change liveries completely, including some red from AirAsia perhaps. Does caterham have any racing colours or something?
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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:58 pm

Tomba wrote:LRGP > Lotus will surely continue with the black and gold livery, which would be a good thing for people to know it's the same team as this year.

Team Lotus > Caterham will be the name of the actual chassis. I would think they will change liveries completely, including some red from AirAsia perhaps. Does caterham have any racing colours or something?

I thought their norm was white with an orange stripe down the middle, much like the current lotus design, but with different colours.
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Post Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:08 pm

I hope they drop the red on the LRGP's ,so surely, it will be Lotus GP next year then,, so within 3 years we have had this many teams with lotus name in:

Lotus Racing
Team Lotus
Lotus Renault GP
Lotus GP (2012?)
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Post Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:00 am

Now tony is coming out with a new premium airline call Caterham Jet..what next?
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Post Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:36 am

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Post Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:11 pm

Seems like they'll keep the same livery..

http://hosted-p0.vresp.com/843201/b7d630976e/ARCHIVE
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Post Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:02 pm

A lot of Caterhams adopt the Lotus livery, after all they are the original Lotus 7.
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Post Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:31 pm

Does this mean Group Lotus owns the rights to Team Lotus or is that still with Tony
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