Byronrhys wrote:
Geoff doesn't like what he sees
Mercedes GP W02
Mercedes GP W02
Team: John Owen (CD), Loic Bigois (HA), Craig Wilson (Head of Vehicle Eng. & Dynamics), Russell Cooley (CE), Ross Brawn (TP), Nick Fry (CEO), Norbert Haug (VP), Thomas Fuhr (MD), Rob Thomas (COO)
Drivers: Michael Schumacher (7), Nico Rosberg (8)
Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:08 pm
Geoff doesn't like what he sees
“To be able to actually make something is awfully nice”
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970
“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970
“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher
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Pierce89
- Joined: 21 Oct 2009
Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:40 pm
I really hope they don't have the same front wing. They debuted that wing in the Barcelona test, which probably means it was produced even as early as this time last year.
They certainly aren't going to catch up the "6 months" deficit claimed by Ross Brawn by putting on a front wing essentially 18 months old (idea conception).
I'm a big MGP fan, and I think they have made good progress since sorting out their "teething" issues. But they do seem to have had Force India nipping at their heels quite aggressively for at least the last few races.
Does anybody have an idea why that has happened?
They certainly aren't going to catch up the "6 months" deficit claimed by Ross Brawn by putting on a front wing essentially 18 months old (idea conception).
I'm a big MGP fan, and I think they have made good progress since sorting out their "teething" issues. But they do seem to have had Force India nipping at their heels quite aggressively for at least the last few races.
Does anybody have an idea why that has happened?
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elf341
- Joined: 10 Aug 2011
Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:26 am
elf341 wrote:I really hope they don't have the same front wing. They debuted that wing in the Barcelona test, which probably means it was produced even as early as this time last year.
They certainly aren't going to catch up the "6 months" deficit claimed by Ross Brawn by putting on a front wing essentially 18 months old (idea conception).
I'm a big MGP fan, and I think they have made good progress since sorting out their "teething" issues. But they do seem to have had Force India nipping at their heels quite aggressively for at least the last few races.
Does anybody have an idea why that has happened?
That happened because they stopped with developments of the wo2. So that means no aero updates. Force India and Renault didnt stop and they brought new aero packages like new front wings etc etc.
Thats why
Ross Brawn: When we understand the tyres we wont understand why we're still of the pace...
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yener
- Joined: 8 May 2011
Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:03 am
Geoff's probably looking at the trick radiators. I'm sure that airbox intake looks smaller than the rest of the field. And a lot smaller than the BGP intake. My eyes are playing tricks on me aren't they?
I've found a way of ducting exhaust right to the diffuser edge like in 2011 and created a new wheel fastener that could allow sub 2 second pitstops see them here --> My 2013 F1 Concept Project
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MIKEY_!
- Joined: 10 Jul 2011
- Location: On my horse, my horse is amazing.
Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:46 pm
elf341 wrote:I really hope they don't have the same front wing. They debuted that wing in the Barcelona test, which probably means it was produced even as early as this time last year.
They certainly aren't going to catch up the "6 months" deficit claimed by Ross Brawn by putting on a front wing essentially 18 months old (idea conception).
I'm a big MGP fan, and I think they have made good progress since sorting out their "teething" issues. But they do seem to have had Force India nipping at their heels quite aggressively for at least the last few races.
Does anybody have an idea why that has happened?
18 months old?
Isn't it more like double that?
Sure it's changed here and there but isn't it still the same basic concept they had on the BGP001?
Mikey!, you may be right, the actual hole for the airbox intake does look smaller than the rest, however the bodywork around it looks so clunky to me!
I still can't understand why they pioneered the blade intake with the W01, only to drop it for the W02.
I'm sure it's not a game changer but I reckon it does help reduce a bit of drag.
Seems to be working well for FI and if u look at the VJM04 head on it looks really sleek in that area and looks like it creates less of an obstruction to the rear wing.
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Tyler
- Joined: 6 Jul 2011
Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:31 am
I certainly agree that the bodywork around the airbox looks chunkier than the rest of the field. Perhaps it's to do with having the short wheelbase? Maybe they had to shorten (and thicken) the hoop to keep the strength.
I've found a way of ducting exhaust right to the diffuser edge like in 2011 and created a new wheel fastener that could allow sub 2 second pitstops see them here --> My 2013 F1 Concept Project
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MIKEY_!
- Joined: 10 Jul 2011
- Location: On my horse, my horse is amazing.
Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:28 pm
beelsebob wrote:Lurk wrote:Wasn't banned. Team Lotus and Force India have one...
But rules changed to make it less efficient.
The blade was banned – a wide support was not.
You're nitpicking here...
(I hope it is not pejorative in english, otherwise I'm sorry
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Lurk
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dren
- Joined: 3 Mar 2010
Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:17 pm
volarchico wrote:I'd figure someone who knows the proper use of "pejorative" has a pretty good grasp on the English language!
Totally off-topic, but there is also very similar word in Polish (pejoratywny), so actually that may be very common word in European languages.
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mith
- Joined: 2 Feb 2010
- Location: Wrocław, Poland
Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:53 pm
mith wrote:volarchico wrote:I'd figure someone who knows the proper use of "pejorative" has a pretty good grasp on the English language!
Totally off-topic, but there is also very similar word in Polish (pejoratywny), so actually that may be very common word in European languages.
More than off-topic! My first language is like this :
من اینطور می نویسم
Nothing like European languages. It is Persian
"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."~William Shakespeare
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Morteza
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