woody3says wrote:I will repeat my questions to you then:
You claim that a manual stick/clutch/foot combo is more efficient than a 40ms current F1 box? Would you agree that teams use the (when rules allow) systems and technologies that are the best to reach the goal of the fastest chassis possible? If a quickshift/zeroshift box is the slower torque transferring and lest efficient of the two, then why don't the teams use a manual dog box???
Speed rules.....if a manual were faster the teams would run those boxes. I give you the benefit of the doubt as much as I can, but your beef seems to be hostility due to your own box.
are you saying that, when in gear and accelerating, shifting to neutral and continuing to accelerate, but at a lower rate, will disengage the drive? i dont think so, until the drive torque reaches almost zero.
or from any method that reduces the torque input to the gearbox and therefore the torque applied to the lower gear
Lurk wrote:or from any method that reduces the torque input to the gearbox and therefore the torque applied to the lower gear
Maybe I missed the post when someone talked about that but how you reduce torque at gearbox input while gear engagment is done in only 1 or 2 ms - and not 40ms like I read ? (maybe it is even faster nowdays)
Is it enough time to shut down a cylinder?
It is the time taken to move the mechanism to disengage one gear and engage the next (the shift overlap)that needs to be guoted.
Lurk wrote:It is the time taken to move the mechanism to disengage one gear and engage the next (the shift overlap)that needs to be guoted.
Sorry if I do not use the correct terms but this is what I was talking about: It takes 1 to 2ms to disengage a gear and engage another.
thisisatest wrote:it is my understanding that one way to lower the applied torque, and to soften the "hit" during an upshift, is to partially disengage the clutch, allowing it to slip a little, just for a moment.
this is all what ive read, i have not built and tested one, or even seen one working in real life...
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