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Post Wed May 02, 2012 6:13 pm

Artur Craft wrote:
madly wrote:Ivand911, I read some post of you on another forumm comparing the new and old FWs, the wider pylons are very clear but I don't see the difference in the green flap which you mentioned, can you tell me, please?

old:
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-photos/79 ... 6/#/197866
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bild ... how_item=9
new:
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-photos/79 ... 4/#/197854
http://img3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/For ... 591334.jpg

Shape on the green flap is different and see the end closer to the pylons is different. One stay up , other is connected with the main plane(going down). Nosecone is wider too.
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Post Wed May 02, 2012 6:18 pm

Artur Craft wrote:
madly wrote:I agree. But I think it's rather design concept or philosophy. EBD with current rules could give 10% (let's say 15% at the end of the year ;-)) last years DF.

I already have read some technical directors(don't remember which) claiming they could recover 25% from last year EBD with the new rule.

If Mercedes is like getting 15% back with this solution, then switching to Sauber or Mclaren solution would be a good gain, if their solutions give the assumed 25%.

wrcsti wrote:its not asymetric, just the angle and colors

No, it can't be :lol:

It's obviously asymetric, just look with some attention to it. :wink:


Ivand911, I read some post of you on another forumm comparing the new and old FWs, the wider pylons are very clear but I don't see the difference in the green flap which you mentioned, can you tell me, please?




if you go back 27pages or something we had the same discussion, it is not asymetric!
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Post Wed May 02, 2012 6:18 pm

Ross Brawn: When we understand the tyres we wont understand why we're still of the pace...
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Post Wed May 02, 2012 6:19 pm

yener wrote:http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/557667_382498851800243_100001203951175_1176581_1666898640_n.jpg



See look at the 2nd pic there, if you turn the angle a little bit more it would be asymetric compared to the other side, for anyone who thinks its asymetric.
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Post Wed May 02, 2012 6:28 pm

ivand911 wrote:Shape on the green flap is different and see the end closer to the pylons is different. One stay up , other is connected with the main plane(going down). Nosecone is wider too.

Yeah, I now noticed this :wink:
Thanks :D

It's even clearer to spot the differences on yener's post, even if it didn't had the red dots. The angle is much better on both versions of FW

Huntresa, the wings are different on yener's post, it doesn't prove your assumption that it was angle related. Look at the wing again on atanatizante's post and see that there are 2 vertical planes on left endplate(left from driver's POV) and only 1 vertical plane on right endplate

PS: Anybody remember seeing that V shape on the gurney flap, on another car?
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Post Wed May 02, 2012 6:36 pm

Artur Craft wrote:
ivand911 wrote:Shape on the green flap is different and see the end closer to the pylons is different. One stay up , other is connected with the main plane(going down). Nosecone is wider too.

Yeah, I now noticed this :wink:
Thanks :D

It's even clearer to spot the differences on yener's post, even if it didn't had the red dots. The angle is much better on both versions of FW

Huntresa, the wings are different on yener's post, it doesn't prove your assumption that it was angle related. Look at the wing again on atanatizante's post and see that there are 2 vertical planes on left endplate(left from driver's POV) and only 1 vertical plane on right endplate

PS: Anybody remember seeing that V shape on the gurney flap, on another car?


This is the image that was linked asking asymetric Image

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If you look at the arrow on the left side you see the top of the first endplate and then the 2nd, just like what a surprise the other side :P

Here is without arrows

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Post Wed May 02, 2012 6:37 pm

Also it works with the pic that has 2 wings, cause i just meant if you angle the bottom one abit more it looks like 1 endplate, as i said it has been discussed like 30 pages back in this thread.
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Post Wed May 02, 2012 7:31 pm

For easier comparison
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Post Wed May 02, 2012 7:54 pm

Dragonfly wrote:For easier comparison
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The nose is definitely larger.
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Post Wed May 02, 2012 8:10 pm

the new pylons from front looks similar to mclaren's
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Post Wed May 02, 2012 9:13 pm

Nice shot of the rear.
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I really want to know what that new floor does under the gearbox.
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Post Wed May 02, 2012 9:32 pm

Lemur lounger looks like diffuser :)
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Post Wed May 02, 2012 9:41 pm

Huntresa wrote:
If you look at the arrow on the left side you see the top of the first endplate and then the 2nd, just like what a surprise the other side :P

Here is without arrows


Yeah, the arrow was covering the other vertical plane. When you posted the image without it, I zoomed it and saw the other one.

Anyway, it wouldn't be of any use to test an asymetric wing because the rules don't allow asymetric fw.
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Post Wed May 02, 2012 9:42 pm

Any idea of how consistent the lap times were?

Do the upgrades seem promising?

Probably asking questions I won't get answers for, but hey! :)
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Post Wed May 02, 2012 9:47 pm

zonk wrote:Lemur lounger looks like diffuser :)


Here's an earlier diffuser:

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