Ferrari F2012

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Post Fri May 11, 2012 10:30 pm

xpensive wrote:Guess the Scuderia is waiting for another race to drop the big one, right Z and X2?

Wanna bet a balaclava lunch?
timbo
 
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Post Sat May 12, 2012 5:33 am

Crucial_Xtreme wrote:A couple of interesting shots here.

Check out the gurney flaps on the diffuser
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The carbon piece seems to be gone. I thought originally it was a cooling exit, but not so much now.

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Interesting shots.

Look the aerodynamics changes from pre-season tests in Jerez:

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Ferrari in the right direction?
Testarossa2012
 
Joined: 13 Feb 2012

Post Sat May 12, 2012 6:11 am

xpensive wrote:Guess the Scuderia is waiting for another race to drop the big one, right Z and X2?

It doesn't get much bigger than the complete redesign of the rear end introduced here.
bhall
 
Joined: 28 Feb 2006

Post Sat May 12, 2012 6:42 am

any one knows the difference between old and new nose?
THE F2012!
THE CAR THAN WON 2012 WORLD F1 CHAMPIONSHIP WHIT A TILTED ENGINE!
alogoc
 
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Post Sat May 12, 2012 6:47 am

banibhusan wrote:1 10 Romain Grosjean 14:51:07 321.6
2 9 Kimi Räikkönen 14:54:46 321.3
3 15 Sergio Perez 15:01:17 320.6
4 11 Paul di Resta 15:26:35 317.3
5 8 Nico Rosberg 14:28:38 317.0
6 7 Michael Schumacher 14:08:59 316.5
7 20 Heikki Kovalainen 14:33:36 316.3
8 5 Fernando Alonso 14:48:44 315.6
9 21 Vitaly Petrov 14:50:05 315.6
10 4 Lewis Hamilton 14:08:36 313.4
11 6 Felipe Massa 14:46:25 313.4

http://www.formula1.com/results/season/ ... _trap.html
The top speed has definitely improved it seems. But F1.com live timing reported that the car is still a handful. Did anyone notice from the onboard shots how it's behaving?

Ferrari is as good as Mercedes if not better car but loosing time on the straights,also Sauber is overated because of speed!
THE F2012!
THE CAR THAN WON 2012 WORLD F1 CHAMPIONSHIP WHIT A TILTED ENGINE!
alogoc
 
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Post Sat May 12, 2012 8:19 am

alogoc wrote:
banibhusan wrote:1 10 Romain Grosjean 14:51:07 321.6
2 9 Kimi Räikkönen 14:54:46 321.3
3 15 Sergio Perez 15:01:17 320.6
4 11 Paul di Resta 15:26:35 317.3
5 8 Nico Rosberg 14:28:38 317.0
6 7 Michael Schumacher 14:08:59 316.5
7 20 Heikki Kovalainen 14:33:36 316.3
8 5 Fernando Alonso 14:48:44 315.6
9 21 Vitaly Petrov 14:50:05 315.6
10 4 Lewis Hamilton 14:08:36 313.4
11 6 Felipe Massa 14:46:25 313.4
Laren_trap.html
The top speed has definitely improved it seems. But F1.com live timing reported that the car is still a handful. Did anyone notice from the onboard shots how it's behaving?

Ferrari is as good as Mercedes if not better car but loosing time on the straights,also Sauber is overated because of speed!

It apears to me that the cars with the tightest, skinniest in the horizontal flexing noses like sauber, mercedes, McLaren, Toro Rosso Lotus. Is it just me or have the cars changed again right under our noses that the cars are moving to a high body, but a divingboard for an upper flipper. I foresee another rule clarification. but it will be in the favor of the platapus only in a fine skinney chick. The closer the bone the sweeter the meat flexi-nose
Those who believe in telekinetics raise my hand
Mr Alcatraz
 
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Location: San Diego Ca. USA

Post Sat May 12, 2012 10:09 am

Kravitz reports we've had to cut more/extra holes out for cooling in the new exhaust area. Not sure why the team didn't anticipate this. In the comparison picture posted above(Jerez vs Montmelo) you can see the exhaust pipe and notice one of the slots has been broken(made larger). But Kravitz made it sound like now they've done even more than below.

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Crucial_Xtreme
 
Joined: 15 Oct 2011
Location: Charlotte

Post Sat May 12, 2012 10:56 am

Felipe is using new deflectors, Fernando -- old.
timbo
 
Joined: 22 Oct 2007

Post Sat May 12, 2012 11:37 am

Here is the difference in cooling for the new exhaust. See new larger holes.

Right click>view image

Launch configuration
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Revised- more holes
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Crucial_Xtreme
 
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Location: Charlotte

Post Sat May 12, 2012 12:25 pm

Crucial_Xtreme wrote:See new larger holes.

It could be worse.
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(Click to enlarge)

Nonetheless, this is a discouraging development.
bhall
 
Joined: 28 Feb 2006

Post Sat May 12, 2012 12:50 pm

Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Here is the difference in cooling for the new exhaust. See new larger holes.

Right click>view image

Launch configuration
http://www.formula1.com/wi/0x0/sutton/2 ... sp1428.jpg

Revised- more holes
http://www.formula1.com/wi/0x0/sutton/2 ... sp1411.jpg

Different 3rd plane mounting system (at least its cover) and top end of FW & RW endplates too.
Didn't follow F1 evolutions this year so don't know if new or not..
Lurk
 
Joined: 13 Feb 2010

Post Sat May 12, 2012 4:25 pm

Here's the new FW. I think the endplate may have changed a little. Also the top innermost cascade element now has a slot where it didn't before.

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High res of new FW
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It's clear the updates on the car are working. Leave it to other teams fans to want to spend time in the F2012 thread now that we out-performed their teams car thus far. :lol:
Crucial_Xtreme
 
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Location: Charlotte

Post Sat May 12, 2012 5:27 pm

Team talk moved to the team thread viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12096&view=unread#unread
Richard
 
Joined: 15 Apr 2009
Location: UK

Post Sat May 12, 2012 5:28 pm

Nice though that rival supporters cannot use the copycat argument anymore. This car is working now and it has original solutions all round.
A wise man once told me you cant polish a turd...
Crabbia
 
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Location: ZA

Post Sat May 12, 2012 10:27 pm

What I really love is the third sector performance, a sector wich is almost an "all traction" one.

Front suspension doesn't look right my a$*
Postmoe
 
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