The use of 'we' in regards to teams and supporters

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Post Mon May 14, 2012 4:43 pm

richard_leeds wrote:Please focus on the actual features of this car.

Off topic posts above that will be moved out later today include...

- A member of the team looking competitors' cars - this is better in the team thread.

- Generic comments about how can "we" get more downforce, or "we" can make improvements to the exhaust.

ps - "We"??? is the Ferrari team really undertaking design development on this forum?



we ? we?

STOP IT DUDE ! these are clearly Ferrari fans. An the use of "we" does not make a comment off topic, which they are not.
Last edited by mx_tifoso on Tue May 15, 2012 6:33 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Reason: Split from F2012 thread.
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Post Mon May 14, 2012 4:53 pm

windwaves wrote:
richard_leeds wrote:Please focus on the actual features of this car.

Off topic posts above that will be moved out later today include...

- A member of the team looking competitors' cars - this is better in the team thread.

- Generic comments about how can "we" get more downforce, or "we" can make improvements to the exhaust.

ps - "We"??? is the Ferrari team really undertaking design development on this forum?



we ? we?

STOP IT DUDE ! these are clearly Ferrari fans. An the use of "we" does not make a comment off topic, which they are not.

Actually I agree with the mods, the 'we' usage is annoying
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Post Mon May 14, 2012 5:17 pm

richard_leeds wrote:Please focus on the actual features of this car.

Off topic posts above that will be moved out later today include...

- A member of the team looking competitors' cars - this is better in the team thread.

- Generic comments about how can "we" get more downforce, or "we" can make improvements to the exhaust.

ps - "We"??? is the Ferrari team really undertaking design development on this forum?


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That was incredible, I don't know how it was 3.5s, I thought it was quicker when I watched it live. I think it's interesting that the rear right is done the opposite way to normal. It solved the problem that Lewis had when he ran over the old tyre anyway.


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Post Mon May 14, 2012 11:27 pm

Why is it a problem I and others use the word we? It's such a small thing it's quite funny it gets on some peoples nerves. Millions of fans of different sports identify themselves with the teams they support. Especially Tifosi. Especially Italian people like myself. Does this mean every one of my posts will be edited when I use the word we?
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Post Tue May 15, 2012 1:43 am

Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Why is it a problem I and others use the word we? It's such a small thing it's quite funny it gets on some peoples nerves. Millions of fans of different sports identify themselves with the teams they support. Especially Tifosi. Especially Italian people like myself. Does this mean every one of my posts will be edited when I use the word we?

i don't use "we" for Ferrari, but it cracks me up when people act bothered by it. I certainly think a mod editing your post is a bit "dictatorial", to borrow from the name of a currently popular thread.
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Post Tue May 15, 2012 2:12 am

Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Why is it a problem I and others use the word we? It's such a small thing it's quite funny it gets on some peoples nerves. Millions of fans of different sports identify themselves with the teams they support. Especially Tifosi. Especially Italian people like myself. Does this mean every one of my posts will be edited when I use the word we?


+1

I remember the days when I got stoned in the pit for saying "we" when referring to Mclaren. haha.

I think it's good as it shows allegiance. Of course I am no longer aligned with Mclaren anymore.
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Post Tue May 15, 2012 7:28 am

its something i do think is a little off. i used to think it was the identifier for an extremist fan but calling people out for it is just a waste of time. its simply how some people talk and doing anything other than carrying on with the discussion is a waste of time.
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Post Tue May 15, 2012 2:14 pm

The use of "we" merely underlines the emotion, the passion fans feel for their favorite team. Racing is, after all, a competiton of men, of human beings, not just machines, computers and simulators. Yet, there seems to be an active effort to eliminate the human element from this forum.

I have followed Ferrari for over 50 years, through good times and bad. I feel joy and pain in synch with their results. I guess we have reached the point where only dry, unemotional posts can escape censorship and derision by a particular mod.
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Post Tue May 15, 2012 4:12 pm

I think there has been a huge misunderstanding in here about hthe term "WE"; quite clearly it has to be an accronimous of WhoEver.

Accronimous are quite popular in english these days, you see... I'm sure that by keeping in mind that they are generally written in capital letters (so, WE), WE will have no problem with it... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Sorry; I thought about writing a long answer about cultural perceptions, differnet languages, etc, but it would have probably been edited or moved, so most likely not worth the effort...
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Post Tue May 15, 2012 6:21 pm

donskar wrote:...
I guess we have reached the point where only dry, unemotional posts can escape censorship and derision by a particular mod.


Afraid it has more to do with trusting that one particular mod with more power than he can handle in a sensible fashion Don.
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Post Tue May 15, 2012 7:30 pm

richard_leeds wrote:"We"??? is the Ferrari team really undertaking design development on this forum?


Judging from their lack of direction, I'd say yes.

I also suspect that a small contingent of 'our' members comprise the McLaren pit crew.
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Post Tue May 15, 2012 8:31 pm

Pup wrote:I also suspect that a small contingent of 'our' members comprise the McLaren pit crew.


Haha hilarious :lol: I don't feel allegiance to any team, maybe that's why it sounds kind of funny when fellow posters use it that way. But if that's how they like it, no use in being too intrusive... IMHO.
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Post Tue May 15, 2012 8:41 pm

i don't use "we" for Ferrari, but it cracks me up when people act bothered by it. I certainly think a mod editing your post is a bit "dictatorial", to borrow from the name of a currently popular thread.


I guess we have reached the point where only dry, unemotional posts can escape censorship and derision by a particular mod.


Man I could not agree more. I try to be understanding but this has gotten out of hand.
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Post Tue May 15, 2012 10:09 pm

Count yourself that the moderators here are pretty friendly. I recently had a look over on the NoGripRacing forum. I made 1 post, that I would normally post here, and they found 5 breaches of their forum rules. You literally have to read an FIA sized set of regulations before you can post. Ridiculous, thank god everyone here is nice, and generally helpful.

I can see that the us of 'we' could be annoying, if the user of the word is pretending to know everything about the topic, and the team, with nothing to back it up with.

However, generally, I think it's good that people associate themselves, with what is essentially 'their' team. Then again, I get where the mods are coming from, but gotta say Richard was being a bit anal about that edit.
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Post Wed May 16, 2012 12:30 am

Actually, the target of my comments were the generic nature of many posts in the F2012 thread. The comment about “we” was a little aside.

Posts such as “how can we get downforce” or “how can we update the exhausts” are no different to posts saying “how can we make this car go faster”. They are not technical nor specific to the F2012.

I also thought "man looking over fence" should be in the team thread.

Finally just look at who actually edited out the "we". Some chap called Tomba. If people are going to get personal about this then at least get the facts right.
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