Ferrari F2012

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Post Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:26 pm

Still the car is basically 3rd or 4th in the performance pecking order this season, the same as the last few seasons.

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Post Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:29 pm

hardingfv32 wrote:Still the car is basically 3rd or 4th in the performance pecking order this season, the same as the last few seasons.

Brian


3rd at worst, differences between 1st and that 3rd are about 0.3s per lap if that much at all, which is a lot less than last year comparing to RB7.
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Post Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:40 am

I'd actually say that the Ferrari, McLaren and Red Bull are all basically just about as fast as each other but get there with different strengths and weaknesses. The McLaren seems a little faster across the board in qualifying but is less likely to have really good tyre life; Red Bull seems to almost always do well in race pace but is often qualifying too far back; Ferrari seem stuck between the two, rarely outshining both cars but normally doing better than one or other. Given the variation in tracks, tyres, weather conditions, setup, etc. I don't think there's really much to choose between all three.
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Post Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:59 pm

myurr wrote:I'd actually say that the Ferrari, McLaren and Red Bull are all basically just about as fast as each other but get there with different strengths and weaknesses. The McLaren seems a little faster across the board in qualifying but is less likely to have really good tyre life; Red Bull seems to almost always do well in race pace but is often qualifying too far back; Ferrari seem stuck between the two, rarely outshining both cars but normally doing better than one or other. Given the variation in tracks, tyres, weather conditions, setup, etc. I don't think there's really much to choose between all three.

In the last race Vettel's tyres went off and last his 4s lead from Hamilton and another 2s over Alonso in just a few laps and they closed in to within a few tenths before he pitted and the other drivers reacted.
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Post Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:16 pm

Owen.C93 wrote:In the last race Vettel's tyres went off and last his 4s lead from Hamilton and another 2s over Alonso in just a few laps and they closed in to within a few tenths before he pitted and the other drivers reacted.


You can point at individual exceptions, especially as they are so closely matched. But the overall trend over the season, in my opinion, stands.
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:07 pm

I read a hungarian website, Ferrari try a new rear suspension in Valencia. Anybody confirm that?
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:48 pm

Mazdaboy wrote:I read a hungarian website, Ferrari try a new rear suspension in Valencia. Anybody confirm that?



can you give a link on that article?
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:00 pm

By seeing this two pic i think Ferrari started to regain its desired downforce level or whatever to seal the diffuser and thus started to having more rake in its car..........

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Post Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:40 pm

myurr wrote:
Owen.C93 wrote:In the last race Vettel's tyres went off and last his 4s lead from Hamilton and another 2s over Alonso in just a few laps and they closed in to within a few tenths before he pitted and the other drivers reacted.


You can point at individual exceptions, especially as they are so closely matched. But the overall trend over the season, in my opinion, stands.

True that. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see it change like it did last race though.
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:37 pm

alogoc wrote:
Mazdaboy wrote:I read a hungarian website, Ferrari try a new rear suspension in Valencia. Anybody confirm that?



can you give a link on that article?


Here is the link: http://f1-live.hu/hirek/legfrissebb_hir ... errarinal/
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:55 pm

Mazdaboy wrote:
alogoc wrote:
Mazdaboy wrote:I read a hungarian website, Ferrari try a new rear suspension in Valencia. Anybody confirm that?



can you give a link on that article?


Here is the link: http://f1-live.hu/hirek/legfrissebb_hir ... errarinal/



where does it say REAR suspension!
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:15 pm

It doesn't implicitly says it's a rear suspension upgrade. They say the update is intended to improve tyre degradation.

Quick translation > " Regarding to our (F1-Live.hu) information, Ferrari are preparing to test a new suspension for Valencia. They are still unsatisfied with tyre degradation, and the new suspension can improve it"
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Post Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:06 pm

Gary Anderson's take on the F2012 Exhaust

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Post Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:09 am

quite obviously the front and rear brakedrums have been THE key area for performance development this year and interestingly enough ..Williams has been one of the leading innovators (coughlan ?)..

Removing the brakeduct inlets from this most critical area blocking off valuable airstream towards the sidepods is a serious performance gain .I wonder how long it will take to see or better not see any of the other obstacles disappear.. :roll:
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Post Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:03 am

Front, rear wing, floor and exhaust are expected developments for Valencia, according to Spanish newspaper Marca.
The article also claims that SF works on three cars simultaneously.
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