Mercedes AMG F1 W03

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Post Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:48 am

Owen.C93 wrote:I think that wood you see is just exposed gold lining to the monocoque. The hole in the mirror is for tyre temp.


Seriously? That's pretty awesome! Is there an IR sensor or something in it? Genuinely intrigued.

I am easily amused, yes. It's both a blessing and a curse... :D
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NewtonMeter
 
Joined: 24 Jun 2010
Location: Pretoria, South Africa

Post Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:39 pm

NewtonMeter wrote:
Owen.C93 wrote:I think that wood you see is just exposed gold lining to the monocoque. The hole in the mirror is for tyre temp.


Seriously? That's pretty awesome! Is there an IR sensor or something in it? Genuinely intrigued.

I am easily amused, yes. It's both a blessing and a curse... :D

I believe so. I know McLaren ran the same thing on the MP4-26.
Owen.C93
 
Joined: 24 Jul 2010

Post Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:14 pm

Any uptade for Valencia?

BTW: This car is so fast on Sector 1 but lose over 0.300 on sector 2 and Sector 3 is kinda normal.
clipsy1H
 
Joined: 12 Feb 2012

Post Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:59 pm

clipsy1H wrote:Any uptade for Valencia?

BTW: This car is so fast on Sector 1 but lose over 0.300 on sector 2 and Sector 3 is kinda normal.

no cascades , same as canada
i can understand that at canada, but why did they remove it in valencia? :wtf: strange
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siskue2005
 
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Location: India

Post Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:11 pm

Does the car not need any development or the team is falling behind? I mean look at Red Bull and Ferrari. I'm getting worried about it.

The front wing also has left me scratching my head. Why are they still using it as other members here mentioned?
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Morteza
 
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Post Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:24 pm

no man, no, dont worry, they know what they are doing

some on this forum say, they've done testing in wind tunnels and so on, so you don't have to worry about it ... SERIOUSLY!


but for real: i lost hope in this team
Joie de vivre
 
Joined: 2 Sep 2010

Post Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:30 pm

You guys seem to ignore the damn near B-spec car they launched a couple of races ago, do you expect them to have a new car every 2 races?
As for the front wing, I think this might be more about a balance thing rather than anything else.
mantikos
 
Joined: 2 Mar 2011

Post Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:37 pm

So because they run a front wing without the cascade you guys lose hope in the team?

Seriously this is dumb, are you thinking you need max df because the walls are closer to the track or is it that they just dont run a cascade?

No but seriously 4 long straights and apart from that just turns, you sure do not need top speed at all here.

Oh and dont forget to keep hope in McLaren not sporting any updates at all for since I know when!
wesley123
 
Joined: 23 Feb 2008

Post Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:42 pm

They could be running more rake to the entire front wing as a whole and are finding that to work better than running less wing rake yet with cascades. They also could have found the wash produced by the cascades to be producing less-than helpful currents towards the back of the car.
Ferraripilot
 
Joined: 28 Jan 2011
Location: Atlanta

Post Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:13 pm

since TC is banned, teams should be looking for better ways to maximize the downforce (brawn double dif. i.e.), and rbr's new exhaust/air flow system ... well at least some teams know the downforce is the most important factor (why on earth was rbr so dominant with EBD? and also brawn w/ DD?)

i don't care about FW, this team realy needs to start reconsidering revising this exhaust layout and max. the downforce ... also reducing degredation of tires

i bet vettel will win this gp
Joie de vivre
 
Joined: 2 Sep 2010

Post Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:14 pm

mantikos wrote:You guys seem to ignore the damn near B-spec car they launched a couple of races ago, do you expect them to have a new car every 2 races?
As for the front wing, I think this might be more about a balance thing rather than anything else.

B-spec? The one where they made small modifications to the sidepods?
Owen.C93
 
Joined: 24 Jul 2010

Post Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:18 pm

Joie de vivre wrote:since TC is banned, teams should be looking for better ways to maximize the downforce (brawn double dif. i.e.), and rbr's new exhaust/air flow system ... well at least some teams know the downforce is the most important factor (why on earth was rbr so dominant with EBD? and also brawn w/ DD?)

i don't care about FW, this team realy needs to start reconsidering revising this exhaust layout and max. the downforce ... also reducing degredation of tires

i bet vettel will win this gp



Nothing wrong with their degradatin, its not worst and its on par with most top teams, and not again with the exhaust, WE DONT KNOW how good or bad their current one is compared to Sauber or Mclaren style so give it a rest plz
Huntresa
 
Joined: 3 Dec 2011

Post Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:20 pm

Owen.C93 wrote:
mantikos wrote:You guys seem to ignore the damn near B-spec car they launched a couple of races ago, do you expect them to have a new car every 2 races?
As for the front wing, I think this might be more about a balance thing rather than anything else.

B-spec? The one where they made small modifications to the sidepods?



They did new nose, new suspension and brake setup at the back and the sidepod modification.
Huntresa
 
Joined: 3 Dec 2011

Post Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:22 pm

Not to mention most of the structures required crash testing again.
wesley123
 
Joined: 23 Feb 2008

Post Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:12 pm

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