Ferrari F2012

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Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:23 pm

if this goes on like 2010 when vettel broke his fw and got webber's one...then massa should win this GP!! :P
amouzouris
 
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:56 pm

Alonso 111 points
Massa 11 points

Anything else needs to be said????
THE F2012!
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alogoc
 
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:01 pm

alogoc wrote:Alonso 111 points
Massa 11 points

Anything else needs to be said????


Points do not tell the whole story.
zyphro
 
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:23 pm

zyphro wrote:
alogoc wrote:Alonso 111 points
Massa 11 points

Anything else needs to be said????


Points do not tell the whole story.

Part of the rest of the story is using inters to save full wets for the race. This is one of the stupider rules as full wets should not be limited IMHO. It would be very unsafe if someone had to go to inters at the end of the race because all full wets were worn out. Then again Ferrari could have just sat tight in the garage. :?
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:01 pm

zyphro wrote:
alogoc wrote:Alonso 111 points
Massa 11 points

Anything else needs to be said????


Points do not tell the whole story.


In this case they most certainly tell the entire story. The driver with the best chance at winning the WDC should get the newer wing if only one is available. Whether Fernando wrecked his own or not. It's about the team not about a particular driver. The WCC isn't out of reach but is damn near unlikely, the WDC however isn't and that should be taken into consideration.

That said, let Felipe keep the new FW. He needs it. Fernando can do without it and still bring home good points and/or win. But the point is both drivers drive for Ferrari and the point of racing in F1 is to win titles. With 100 points separating both drivers, the one with the best chance of bring home a title should have first dibbs on the newest equipment. Especially considering there is a clear #1 & #2 driver at Ferrari.
Crucial_Xtreme
 
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:18 pm

Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
zyphro wrote:
alogoc wrote:Alonso 111 points
Massa 11 points

Anything else needs to be said????


Points do not tell the whole story.


In this case they most certainly tell the entire story. The driver with the best chance at winning the WDC should get the newer wing if only one is available. Whether Fernando wrecked his own or not. It's about the team not about a particular driver. The WCC isn't out of reach but is damn near unlikely, the WDC however isn't and that should be taken into consideration.

That said, let Felipe keep the new FW. He needs it. Fernando can do without it and still bring home good points and/or win. But the point is both drivers drive for Ferrari and the point of racing in F1 is to win titles. With 100 points separating both drivers, the one with the best chance of bring home a title should have first dibbs on the newest equipment. Especially considering there is a clear #1 & #2 driver at Ferrari.


Word! =D>
THE F2012!
THE CAR THAN WON 2012 WORLD F1 CHAMPIONSHIP WHIT A TILTED ENGINE!
alogoc
 
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Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:24 pm

THE F2012!
THE CAR THAN WON 2012 WORLD F1 CHAMPIONSHIP WHIT A TILTED ENGINE!
alogoc
 
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:41 am

alogoc wrote:http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-w5H2mktoDnA/T_bucBJ0V4I/AAAAAAAAdZc/b3mH8982oFg/s1600/Fernando+Alonso+of+Spain+and+Ferrari+drives+during+practice+for+the+British+Grand+Prix+at+Silverstone+Circuit.jpg

is this the usual rake?


I'm not sure how truly representative that picture is regarding the rake, but after looking at various pictures from many different source, I believe the F2012 is using the most rake it has all season and is at pre-season testing levels.
Crucial_Xtreme
 
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:52 am

I had the same thing thought after I saw the following picture. However, I'd like to see the car on a dry track, because the increased ride height used in wet conditions could be creating added rake in appearance only.

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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:44 am

bhallg2k wrote:I had the same thing thought after I saw the following picture. However, I'd like to see the car on a dry track, because the increased ride height used in wet conditions could be creating added rake in appearance only.

Image
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Hail22
 
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:20 am

...
OMG you're right.

WOW. :shock: :mrgreen:
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Chuckjr
 
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:18 am

Hail22 wrote:
bhallg2k wrote:I had the same thing thought after I saw the following picture. However, I'd like to see the car on a dry track, because the increased ride height used in wet conditions could be creating added rake in appearance only.

Image
(Click to enlarge)


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I think they were there in Valencia, they are not openings

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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:59 am

So far we've only seen an updated top element on the front wing, aye?
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:29 am

nice view of the new front wing:
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:47 am

Pitcure of F2012 radiator layout
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