Red Bull RB10 Pre-launch Speculation

[Holm86]

http://scarbsf1.com/blog1/2013/12/04/sp ... redcition/

just to throw a spanner in the works, here is some speculation from Germany, not sure how accurate this is? I thought there would be no monkey seats within the 2014 regs?

Do people ever look at the previous pages before posting??

Monkey seat is allowed. Its the beam wing that's gone.

[Tim.Wright]

http://scarbsf1.com/blog1/2013/12/04/sp ... redcition/

just to throw a spanner in the works, here is some speculation from Germany, not sure how accurate this is? I thought there would be no monkey seats within the 2014 regs?

Do people ever look at the previous pages before posting??

Monkey seat is allowed. Its the beam wing that's gone.

Its also answered in the link he posted...

[Gerhard Berger]

http://translate.google.de/translate?sl ... 44005.html

if already posted?, didn't see it!

Newey on 2013 /2014 and RB10:

"The biggest problem is the front wing."

" I will try to keep the "rake" even without exhaust blowing"

something like this he says, so other common means than the exhaust to seal the diffuser or some sneaky sneaky stuff..?

Keeping the rake surely makes little sense without blowing the exhaust.

I think his answet to the last question is more "I've made cars in the past without EBDs, so i'll do what i did back then".

[ringo]

remember rake keeps the front wing lower as well.

[timbo]

remember rake keeps the front wing lower as well.

which would shift aero balance forward. It's only good if you have enough rear DF.

[raymondu999]

MP4-25 was probably the closest we've seen.

To what?

Ramp, sans coanda exhaust

[gandharva]

Keeping the rake surely makes little sense without blowing the exhaust.

Going for rake always makes sense if you still manage to keep the diffusor working. It massively helps in terms of setup variance and therefore rear end traction.

I think his answet to the last question is more "I've made cars in the past without EBDs, so i'll do what i did back then".

No. Just watch my translation of the discussed article:

Quick summary of Neweys words:

- Some hint that we won't see the ramp in 2014 as it was only a compromise with small benefits and only done because of exhaust exiting on the side was allowed
- Webber has more "aerodynamic feeling" for the car than Seb but general design route followed CFD and not drivers feelings
- Engine mappings had huge influence in 2013
- Biggest 2014 problem is the frontwing. -> Design decision between rounting air on the inner or outer side of front wheels
- V6 engine packaging is 2x to 3x more complex than with V8s
- "I used rake as no exhaust blowing was available and I will try to do it again"

[SectorOne]

There will be rake. Just not as much as today.

[Owen.C93]

I think the RB10 is going in-wash this year. I imagine the front brake duct vanes will become a big development area next year.

[lio007]

the RB10 could be look like this (by Matt Sommerfield)

[Burgess]

A pretty rough drawing then, FW doesn't look legal neither does the nose.

[beelsebob]

I don't understand why everyone is drawing coanda exhaust bulges on these. The exhaust being there is banned in the new regs, so there's no benefit to adding that bulge blocking a chunk of the coke bottle.

[Holm86]

That just looks like a bad copy of scarbs drawing.

[Owen.C93]

It's only summers.

I did hear that RBR have done something slightly different to the new nose regs. The guy isn't huge on F1Tech but he said it did look different from Scarb's drawing. We've seen lots of teams run basic launch cars at the first test and I expect this to be even more common while they sort out the engines before homologation which is after the first or second test I believe.

[scarbs]

I did hear that RBR have done something slightly different to the new nose regs. The guy isn't huge on F1Tech but he said it did look different from Scarb's drawing. We've seen lots of teams run basic launch cars at the first test and I expect this to be even more common while they sort out the engines before homologation which is after the first or second test I believe.

I've also heard the RB10 will have a different nose to my drawing and it is a solution thats been talked about on this forum.