Ferrari SF15-T Pre-Launch Speculation Thread

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gilgen wrote:
Kalsi wrote: No ... as far as i know compressor and turbine already were a single piece on the F14T
Ferrari ran a split turbo last year!
Source? I thought there was much talk of how Mercedes were the only ones with a split turbo.
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adrianjordan wrote:
gilgen wrote:
Kalsi wrote: No ... as far as i know compressor and turbine already were a single piece on the F14T
Ferrari ran a split turbo last year!
Source? I thought there was much talk of how Mercedes were the only ones with a split turbo.
Yes but due to packaging the compressor was too small

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adrianjordan wrote:
gilgen wrote:
Kalsi wrote: No ... as far as i know compressor and turbine already were a single piece on the F14T
Ferrari ran a split turbo last year!
Source? I thought there was much talk of how Mercedes were the only ones with a split turbo.
Try googling it! there is even a photo of it. the ferrari ompressor is at the back of the V and the merc one is at the front of the V.

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According to what i found/know Mercedes was the only engine with split turbo... please post your sources

http://jalopnik.com/how-mercedes-ingeni ... 1560969552

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I posted a link on page 15.. :?

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Not really a full split turbo. It just housed the MGU-H in the middle.
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Kalsi wrote:According to what i found/know Mercedes was the only engine with split turbo... please post your sources

http://jalopnik.com/how-mercedes-ingeni ... 1560969552
None of the engines have split turbos. The compressors are just at different distances away, two engines have the mguh between the compressor and turbine and one engine has it on the end on the compressor.
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Owen.C93 wrote:Not really a full split turbo. It just housed the MGU-H in the middle.
oh dear. it is a split turbo when the turbo and the compressor are not housed as one unit in the same body!

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Kalsi wrote:According to what i found/know Mercedes was the only engine with split turbo... please post your sources

http://jalopnik.com/how-mercedes-ingeni ... 1560969552
Dude you are wrong, read up and do your own research

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mantikos wrote:
Kalsi wrote:According to what i found/know Mercedes was the only engine with split turbo... please post your sources

http://jalopnik.com/how-mercedes-ingeni ... 1560969552
Dude you are wrong, read up and do your own research
No, that's not how it works. He already provided a source. Which other team do you think had a split turbo in 2014, and what evidence do you have for that?

Hint: Neither Ferrari nor Renault did, only Merc. Whether they do in 2015 or not is a different matter.

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Moose wrote:
mantikos wrote:
Kalsi wrote:According to what i found/know Mercedes was the only engine with split turbo... please post your sources

http://jalopnik.com/how-mercedes-ingeni ... 1560969552
Dude you are wrong, read up and do your own research
No, that's not how it works. He already provided a source. Which other team do you think had a split turbo in 2014, and what evidence do you have for that?

Hint: Neither Ferrari nor Renault did, only Merc. Whether they do in 2015 or not is a different matter.
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/fe ... 4-secrets/

Paragraph 3
"Although aerodynamically beneficial, the layout has prevented Ferrari from adopting the Mercedes-style split-turbo concept, whereby the compressor sits at the front of the engine with only the turbine at the rear, the two linked by a long shaft running through the vee of the engine. Using the Mercedes layout it has been possible to use a much bigger compressor than on the Ferrari (and Renault) engine where the size has been limited by not causing an airflow blockage in the aerodynamically sensitive rear ‘coke bottle’ area of the car."

Link to the Picture from the Article: http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/wp-co ... ARRjpg.jpg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgKqE7mVikM
8:45 Scarbs begins discussing the F14T Turbo and MGU-H layout. So I have just posted conflicting articles relative to this topic. I assume Scarbs is right, only because I like him more. :D His video is about a month before the article by Mark Hughes. I don't know who is right.

Credit to ME4ME for posting the video back on page 15 on Dec. 19.

*EDIT: Apparently my reply hasn't posted so this is all a bit awkward now.

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Moose wrote:
mantikos wrote:
Kalsi wrote:According to what i found/know Mercedes was the only engine with split turbo... please post your sources

http://jalopnik.com/how-mercedes-ingeni ... 1560969552
Dude you are wrong, read up and do your own research
No, that's not how it works. He already provided a source. Which other team do you think had a split turbo in 2014, and what evidence do you have for that?

Hint: Neither Ferrari nor Renault did, only Merc. Whether they do in 2015 or not is a different matter.
Not another person who is not up to date? ferrari DO run a split turbo. and that is 100% fact. Not quite as split as the Merc one, but still split. renault run a combined single unit. Google it and as i said earlier, there are actual photos of the ferrari unit.

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The definition of a 'split' turbo is whether the Compressor wheel and Turbine wheel are on the same solid shaft or on seperate shafts with some sort of drive-link, not whether the MGUH is in the middle or not. A turbo with the MGUH in the middle can have a single shaft, I know because I have seen it.
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