Just came across this video and I thought I would share. Listen to this beautiful screaming v10 it all it's glory. Turn it up and enjoy.
Samraj_official wrote:I usually watch and enjoy the old V10 music of the bygone F1 era,still miss these moments particularly Williams BMW onboards
You don't really mean the speed they could carry through corners - the modern cars are a second a lap faster around Suzuka (yes, mod 130r being slightly different) than those cars, and the track is dominated by high speed corners.nokivasara wrote:I miss the speed they could carry through corners, watch the beginning of the lap, amazing!
They were 10 seconds a lap slower around Malaysia than they were 10 years ago, they said the winner in 2006 would have lapped Vettel 6 times. The cars were much faster than now and the turn in speed is heaps quicker.Moose wrote:You don't really mean the speed they could carry through corners - the modern cars are a second a lap faster around Suzuka (yes, mod 130r being slightly different) than those cars, and the track is dominated by high speed corners.nokivasara wrote:I miss the speed they could carry through corners, watch the beginning of the lap, amazing!
What you mean is that you miss that it really looks like he's on the edge of losing it at all times. The modern cars seem to be on rails most of the time - twitches are very rare, and very small. Alesi looks like he's going faster simply because he's having to make many more corrections.
1 second faster after 14 years, Not bad for a naturally aspirated V10 without DRS and associated electrical hybrid help. The drivers these days seem to have it a bit easy based on driver comments from those who drove back then eg. Alonso & Kimi.Moose wrote:You don't really mean the speed they could carry through corners - the modern cars are a second a lap faster around Suzuka (yes, mod 130r being slightly different) than those cars, and the track is dominated by high speed corners.nokivasara wrote:I miss the speed they could carry through corners, watch the beginning of the lap, amazing!
What you mean is that you miss that it really looks like he's on the edge of losing it at all times. The modern cars seem to be on rails most of the time - twitches are very rare, and very small. Alesi looks like he's going faster simply because he's having to make many more corrections.
Which just goes to show that the FIA's aim of ensuring that the cars don't get faster / too fast over the years has been pretty much fully achieved.r_b_l wrote: 1 second faster after 14 years
I think you are correct from my memory the Honda RA001E was also not as reliable. That Mugen engine in 99 did not have an engine failure, unfortunately Hill had plenty of DNF'srich1701 wrote:Judging by the straight line speed alone, I think Mugan did a better job than Honda works back then. I seem to remember the 99 Jordan being quite competitive in a straight line, here it's quite a few Ks down on the mclaren. Obviously a lot of variables involved in this snapshot.
Just watch this then. Schumacher 2004 vs Hamilton 2015 Australia comparison lap. At then end, Hamilton is turning into the second last corner while Schumi is already halfway down the straight. This NA v10 vs turbo 6hollus wrote:@Emmcee:
If you thought that lap from Alesi was fast, this one will make you fall from your chair (you might need to reload once or twice to get the synchronization right):
http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=h ... e=debunker
This only goes to prove that camera angles can have a ridiculously large effect on perceived speed, as discussed here:
Regarding Malaysia, where the 2014 cars are about as handicapped as they could be by the circuit layout, you are a bit more right, but reports of the new cars being 100 seconds a lap slower are greatly exaggerated. I´ll let you find out the real numbers by yourself.
P.S. The earth is flat and man never set foot on the moon... "they said". I´ll be happier if I never see that expression again in F1T, numbers are much preferable.
But they were 1.5 seconds a lap faster around suzuka than the lap shown in the videoEmmcee wrote:They were 10 seconds a lap slower around Malaysia than they were 10 years ago, they said the winner in 2006 would have lapped Vettel 6 times. The cars were much faster than now and the turn in speed is heaps quicker.Moose wrote:You don't really mean the speed they could carry through corners - the modern cars are a second a lap faster around Suzuka (yes, mod 130r being slightly different) than those cars, and the track is dominated by high speed corners.nokivasara wrote:I miss the speed they could carry through corners, watch the beginning of the lap, amazing!
What you mean is that you miss that it really looks like he's on the edge of losing it at all times. The modern cars seem to be on rails most of the time - twitches are very rare, and very small. Alesi looks like he's going faster simply because he's having to make many more corrections.
Heh, which further cements my point - the 2014 car demolishes the 2001 one through the high downforce section. It carries far more speed through the corners.hollus wrote:@Emmcee:
If you thought that lap from Alesi was fast, this one will make you fall from your chair (you might need to reload once or twice to get the synchronization right):
http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=h ... e=debunker
You guys are missing the point here. No one said "the 2014/15 cars are the fastest F1 cars ever". You don't need to drag up 2004 cars, and circuits that favour them. We know the 2004 cars were monsters.Just watch this then. Schumacher 2004 vs Hamilton 2015 Australia comparison lap. At then end, Hamilton is turning into the second last corner while Schumi is already halfway down the straight. This NA v10 vs turbo 6