Renault R28

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Post Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:04 pm

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manchild
 
Joined: 3 Jun 2005

Post Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:13 pm

Although Renault also fitted a bridged wing to the R28, I think it looks completely different than the other bridged wings. Especially with the lower part of the nose...
Principessa
 
Joined: 12 Aug 2005
Location: Zottegem Belgium

Post Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:15 pm

Very different concept front wing to everyone else - which probably means a fairly different general aero concept? First element attaches to nose, weird by convential recent designs?

V-keel still by the looks of it?

Sidepods again look pretty incredible, undercut massivly, and very
swept down at the rear? A challenger to BMW for the biggest sidepod development prize?
MrT
 
Joined: 17 Jan 2006

Post Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:20 pm

MrT wrote: First element attaches to nose, weird by convential recent designs?


It seems by doing so they got rid of the mounting struts. Sort of...
vyselegend
 
Joined: 20 Feb 2006
Location: Paris, France

Post Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:22 pm

I'd say the wishbone mount points look low in comparison with current trends... more like a Spyker-style twin keel than a V.
joseff
 
Joined: 24 Sep 2002

Post Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:25 pm

I'm pretty sure its V,the lower wishbones are still inclined upward quite a bit... It may be zero... its hard to tell from those photos.... pretty sure its not twin keel although i've been wrong before :p
MrT
 
Joined: 17 Jan 2006

Post Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:26 pm

That front wing looks really really odd!

the spoon looks like a tunnel, i cant think why that is an advantage.

Is it just me or are the exausts quite far out?
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Sawtooth-spike
 
Joined: 28 Jan 2005
Location: Cambridge

Post Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:28 pm

The exhausts do look like they protrude quite a bit, but I think thats because the sidepods have been slimmed so much, they drop away real fast.....
MrT
 
Joined: 17 Jan 2006

Post Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:30 pm

The livery doesn't at all suit the car :evil: #-o #-o
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HKS
 
Joined: 5 Mar 2007

Post Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:33 pm

Spotted a few things, there is some kinda Keel system, as one of the bar goes under the body of the car. Probably stuck with there V-keel.

second thing i have stopped, The front wing if you ignore the bridge, looks like an more curvy version of the Ferrari chin wing from 2005. Its alot more curved and does not look as stuck on as the ferrari one. But it does ring a bell.

Also anybody else noticed the outlet infront of the rewing, at the back of the engine cover?

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oh and the wing mirrors have moved back
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Sawtooth-spike
 
Joined: 28 Jan 2005
Location: Cambridge

Post Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:37 pm

Yep, looks like it's in the area of the rear dampers though, so couldn;t think what it could be for?
MrT
 
Joined: 17 Jan 2006

Post Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:46 pm

My god, the side pods look tiny!

They've been working on the car for longer than most after realising the R27 was a dead duck....and I think it could well have paid dividends. The nose is a departure from the rest of the grid...it looks to be using the FIA space to the absolute limit... this shot helps I think...

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Will be interesting to see if it "works".
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axle
 
Joined: 22 Jun 2004
Location: Norfolk, UK

Post Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:47 pm

It's no-keel chassis. Brighten the monitor and you'll see it.

Completely new car.

No struts triple-blade front wing, almost double-bridged.

Exhaust outlets streamlined at the bottom, forming an inverted raindrop shape.
Sidepod inlets smaller and I think spoon and first blade's inner parts are to grab coolest possible air and direct it to sidepods thus improving the aero efficiency of front end of the chassis.

Clutch cooling outlet in same place as Ferrari's from F2007.

Ugly livery makes it look ugly but in fact it is quite interesting car. They should have figured out by now that you can't have sharp, straight livery lines on a curvy car :roll:
manchild
 
Joined: 3 Jun 2005

Post Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:18 pm

What strikes me about this car is the thickness of the nose. It kind of reminds me to the Arrows A21 by Agathangelou. It looks like they have just increased the nose volume to be able to make it a zero keeler. As a result though the wishbones are more horizontal than with the other teams.

I'm not sure how such increased volume can enhance aero efficiency, but it could allow the team to put more ballast in the nose and lower to the ground.
Tomba
 
Joined: 19 Aug 2002
Location: Belgium

Post Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:51 pm

I find it odd that the R28 doesn't have that extra wing element that all other 2008 cars have in front of the rear wing (except the BMW F1.08, which has it placed further forward).
Roland Ehnström
 
Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Location: Norrtälje, Sweden

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