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Post Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:34 pm

Didn´t know where else to post this picture:

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Does someone knows what car is it, when was it raced or tested?
Driver? Anything?
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Belatti
 
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Post Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:55 pm

Looks like Williams FW20 or 21.

Apparent absence of barge boards seem to point to 1999 FW21.
Then again, the sidepod and flipups look like the FW20.

The "M" on the helmet looks like Jorg Muller.

I don't think I've seen this pic before. There was an article on the Williams-BMW test mule in BMW Magazine way back when, but the car was white with IIRC blue pinstripes.

Edit: Sorry didn't answer your question. Car looks like a Williams-BMW test mule pre-2000. Obviously Jorg Muller is BMW's factory driver. I could be wrong about the white car though, because there was also a Williams/Michelin test car that was white.

Here you go: Jorg Muller in a FW21B, Michelin tyre testing. Click for more.
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joseff
 
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Post Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:17 pm

You may be right, cars look pretty similar (beyond paintjob and pic angle)
"You need great passion, because everything you do with great pleasure, you do well." -Juan Manuel Fangio

"I have no idols. I admire work, dedication and competence." -Ayrton Senna
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Post Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:24 pm

Here's an FW20, take off the barge boards and it looks exactly like the blue BMW test car.

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joseff
 
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Post Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:42 pm

I was about to say, I've seen that car quite a few times before. I thought it was a sort of FW21/22 hybrid, or interim car used as a testbed for the Williams-BMW partnership before they'd released the final livery at the official launch for 2000.

I could be wrong but that's what i vaguely remember.
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Spencifer_Murphy
 
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Post Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:35 pm

joseff wrote:Here's an FW20, take off the barge boards and it looks exactly like the blue BMW test car.


mmm... I don´t know
diferent airbox inlet, different sidepods (nerve in the upper part before the inlet), the nosecone doesnt look just the same, too.

BTW, did Toyota had a never raced test car?
"You need great passion, because everything you do with great pleasure, you do well." -Juan Manuel Fangio

"I have no idols. I admire work, dedication and competence." -Ayrton Senna
Belatti
 
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Location: Argentina

Post Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:50 pm

PNSD
 
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Post Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:47 pm

PNSD wrote:Yup, I guess it was just test mechanics etc. It was the TF101.

http://toyotatf105.free.fr/Presentation ... _TF101.jpg

http://www.toyota-f1.com/public/en/moto ... tf101.html

We might be 'enjoying' the looks of such 'cleaner' aero in 2009. So that's pobably TF101 and TF109 too. :roll:
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