2012 Abu Dhabi GP - Yas Marina

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Here is t hoping Maldonado takes out Webber and vettel.

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If he has enough fuel for sampling, no penalty then.
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Joie de vivre wrote:Vettel didn't pit. Possible penalty? IIRC Hamilton was penilised for such deed.
if that RB has enough fuel to test Vettel escape :D if not he will be drop 5 place. But Newey is smart and told him to stop :D

btw: Maldonado in in front rows at start #-o i expect incidents

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MarkedOne8 wrote:If he has enough fuel for sampling, no penalty then.
That's not the penalty Hamilton was given. You have to make it back to the pits under your own power otherwise you're in breach of the technical, not sporting, regulations. That's an automatic disqualification.

But even if he escapes that and it's a gearbox or engine change that's required then he'll take a penalty for that.

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clipsy1H wrote:
Joie de vivre wrote:Vettel didn't pit. Possible penalty? IIRC Hamilton was penilised for such deed.
if that RB has enough fuel to test Vettel escape :D if not he will be drop 5 place. But Newey is smart and told him to stop :D

btw: Maldonado in in front rows at start #-o i expect incidents
That is EXACTLY what Hamilton was penalised for.

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I don't think fuel has anything to do with the impending penalty. I believe the rule is that during qualifying your car HAS to make it back to the pit under its own power. Obvious mechanical exclusions apply... but hamilton was sent to the back of the grid.

And if they give grosjean a penalty for that garbage they are idiots.

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Vettel should start from the back of the grid because he didn't return to the pits / parc ferme after qualifying on its own power. He can have the right amount of fuel for the sample, but he should be penalised.
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what a form by Ham!!! Was Alonso the only one how could not improve in his second run?

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I believe it was Renault who called for the car to be stopped... that what horner has said... maybe alternator issue?

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stefan_ wrote:Vettel should start from the back of the grid because he didn't return to the pits / parc ferme after qualifying on its own power. He can have the right amount of fuel for the sample, but he should be penalised.
for what!! if he has enough fuel for tests why should get a penalty? :wtf:

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Does it matter who asked the car to be stopped?

Someone break out the tech regs...in on a phone and can't.
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mzivtins wrote:I believe it was Renault who called for the car to be stopped... that what horner has said... maybe alternator issue?
Not the alternator. The steering wheel lights where still on when he shut the engine off.
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The face of Vettel on the interview is quiet relaxed :lol: :lol:

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clipsy1H wrote:
stefan_ wrote:Vettel should start from the back of the grid because he didn't return to the pits / parc ferme after qualifying on its own power. He can have the right amount of fuel for the sample, but he should be penalised.
for what!! if he has enough fuel for tests why should get a penalty? :wtf:
Hamilton stopped after qualifying exactly for this reason - to have enough fuel for the required sample and he was thrown at the back of the grid. I am by no means a Hamilton fan, but let's see if there is a chance for consistency in applying penalties. Let's see if wonder boy gets to see the back of the cucumber.
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clipsy1H wrote:
stefan_ wrote:Vettel should start from the back of the grid because he didn't return to the pits / parc ferme after qualifying on its own power. He can have the right amount of fuel for the sample, but he should be penalised.
for what!! if he has enough fuel for tests why should get a penalty? :wtf:
Technical regulations clearly states the car must drive back to Parc Ferme under its own power unless technical evidence can be shown/proven the vehicle has suffered a technical fault (Engine, Gearbox etc). Before anyone says ahahaha loophole with the alternator...the alternator is still considered part of the "powerplant" ergo engine which should still incur a 5 place penalty in the least.
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