F1 2016 pre-season testing

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snowy wrote:It's that final stint by Hamilton that sort of gives the game away, everything else has been neither here nor there. But that stint, its length and consistency has got to ring alarm bells at Ferrari.

All mediums apart from Kimi on hard.
Sure it would raise some eyebrows at Ferrari...But if I were at Ferrari right now I would not go into a state of panic.. I would be extremely confident with car/driver/team package that I have at Ferrari.. as I mentioned on another thread...I think Merc is slightly concerned at Ferrari's pace and are uncomfortable at how close they are...that is purely looking at the cars...Ferrari seem to be close with plenty of room for developement...and Merc already have developements on the car and alot of them too more than any other team I think. I think Merc are the worried ones right now...not Ferrari.

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If MB have a .3 gap to Ferrari on race pace then that still puts Ferrari about 20 seconds behind MB at the end of a race. Ferrari have some work to do. Ferrari just need to hope that is an accurate representation of the gap and that MB don't have an additional power setting up their sleeve they're hiding.

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It would be good to have some line chart with all lap times between Merc and Ferrari. ... to visualize the difference.

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snowy wrote:Third stints of race stimulations:
Hamilton (M) OUT 1:28.7 1:28.2 1:28.3 1:29.5 1:28.9 1:28.7 1:30.0 1:30.4 1:28.3 1:28.5 1:28.8 1:29.5 1:29.4 1:29.5 1:31.2
Rosberg (M) OUT 1:28.7 1:30.5 1:29.9 1:28.9 1:29.0 1:28.8 1:28.6 1:29.0 1:29.1 1:29.2 1:29.0 1:29.0 1:29.6 1:30.2 1:29.5 1:29.8 1:29.6 1:29.6
Vettel (M) OUT 1:28.3 1:28.7 1:28.6 1:28.6 1:28.8 1:28.9 1.29.1 1.28.9 1.30.0 1:28.7 1:28.9 1:29.2 1:29.2 1:29.5 1:29.4 1.29.3 1.31.1 1.29.9
Raikko (M) OUT 1:27.9 1:29.2 1:28.3 1:28.6 1:28.9 1:28.7 1:29.5 1:29.1 1:28.9 1:29.3 1:29.4 1:29.3 1:29.2 1:29.1 1:29.3 1:29.4 1:28.8 1:29.5 1:29.1 1:29.8 1:29.7 1:29.6 1:30.1
Hulkenberg (M) OUT 1:30.2 1:30.3 1:30.5 1:30.4 1:30.5 1:30.9 1:31.6 1:31.3 1:31.5 1:32.0

My crude calculations (not taking into consideration anomalies) shows the total time over the first 15 laps for the two Mercs and two Ferraris shows:

Driver Total Time (1st 15 Laps)
Ham 22:17.9
Ros 22:19.0
Vet 22:14.9
Rai 22:14.7

Intradasting...

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snowy wrote:Mercedes and Ferrari final stints:
LH 1:27.0 1:27.2 1:27.2 1:27.1 1:27.1 1:27.2 1:27.2 1:27.0 1:27.4 1:27.2 1:27.5 1:27.4 1:27.4 1:27.4 1:27.6 1:27.4 1:27.5 1:27.8 1:28.4 1:28.8
NR 1:26.2 1:27.7 1:27.7 1:27.8 1:27.3 1:27.5 1:27.8 1:28.4 1:28.4 1:28.8 1:35.1 1:28.4 1:28.3 1:28.4 1:28.6 1:29.2 1:29.0
SV 1:27.5 1:27.5 1:28.3 1:29.2 1:28.3 1:28.9 1:28.7 1:28.4 1:28.5 1.28.3
KR 1:27.4 1:27.2 1:28.6 1:28.4 1:28.6 1:29.0 1:28.2 1:28.9 1:29.1 1:28.6 1:29.0 1:31.1 1:29.3 1:29.4 1:31.5 (H)
Mercedes easily in the 1:27's, while Ferrari only manage 2 laps. At this point I don't think Ferrari are any closer then they were at the end of 2015.

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snowy wrote:Mercedes and Ferrari final stints:
LH 1:27.0 1:27.2 1:27.2 1:27.1 1:27.1 1:27.2 1:27.2 1:27.0 1:27.4 1:27.2 1:27.5 1:27.4 1:27.4 1:27.4 1:27.6 1:27.4 1:27.5 1:27.8 1:28.4 1:28.8
NR 1:26.2 1:27.7 1:27.7 1:27.8 1:27.3 1:27.5 1:27.8 1:28.4 1:28.4 1:28.8 1:35.1 1:28.4 1:28.3 1:28.4 1:28.6 1:29.2 1:29.0
SV 1:27.5 1:27.5 1:28.3 1:29.2 1:28.3 1:28.9 1:28.7 1:28.4 1:28.5 1.28.3
KR 1:27.4 1:27.2 1:28.6 1:28.4 1:28.6 1:29.0 1:28.2 1:28.9 1:29.1 1:28.6 1:29.0 1:31.1 1:29.3 1:29.4 1:31.5 (H)
What were the other threes tyre compounds?

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I can't wait to see what the gent at f1metrics comes up with after churning through test 2's numbers!

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ME4ME wrote:
snowy wrote:Mercedes and Ferrari final stints:
LH 1:27.0 1:27.2 1:27.2 1:27.1 1:27.1 1:27.2 1:27.2 1:27.0 1:27.4 1:27.2 1:27.5 1:27.4 1:27.4 1:27.4 1:27.6 1:27.4 1:27.5 1:27.8 1:28.4 1:28.8
NR 1:26.2 1:27.7 1:27.7 1:27.8 1:27.3 1:27.5 1:27.8 1:28.4 1:28.4 1:28.8 1:35.1 1:28.4 1:28.3 1:28.4 1:28.6 1:29.2 1:29.0
SV 1:27.5 1:27.5 1:28.3 1:29.2 1:28.3 1:28.9 1:28.7 1:28.4 1:28.5 1.28.3
KR 1:27.4 1:27.2 1:28.6 1:28.4 1:28.6 1:29.0 1:28.2 1:28.9 1:29.1 1:28.6 1:29.0 1:31.1 1:29.3 1:29.4 1:31.5 (H)
Mercedes easily in the 1:27's, while Ferrari only manage 2 laps. At this point I don't think Ferrari are any closer then they were at the end of 2015.
Don't you think it is weird that SV on meds and KR on Hards both have very good first couple of laps and then shift to 1:28s?

Not sure of SV but KR was bang on for similar type of run as the Mercs if he had the medium tires on, IMO.

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StrikeForceF1 wrote:
snowy wrote:Mercedes and Ferrari final stints:
LH 1:27.0 1:27.2 1:27.2 1:27.1 1:27.1 1:27.2 1:27.2 1:27.0 1:27.4 1:27.2 1:27.5 1:27.4 1:27.4 1:27.4 1:27.6 1:27.4 1:27.5 1:27.8 1:28.4 1:28.8
NR 1:26.2 1:27.7 1:27.7 1:27.8 1:27.3 1:27.5 1:27.8 1:28.4 1:28.4 1:28.8 1:35.1 1:28.4 1:28.3 1:28.4 1:28.6 1:29.2 1:29.0
SV 1:27.5 1:27.5 1:28.3 1:29.2 1:28.3 1:28.9 1:28.7 1:28.4 1:28.5 1.28.3
KR 1:27.4 1:27.2 1:28.6 1:28.4 1:28.6 1:29.0 1:28.2 1:28.9 1:29.1 1:28.6 1:29.0 1:31.1 1:29.3 1:29.4 1:31.5 (H)
Snowy do you know on what tyres the final stints were done...Thanks for all the info...over the weekend when I have a bit more time I will do some extrapolations and see if I find anything to share with you guys
Like I said yesterday, I get the idea Ferrari is trying to hide their low fuel pace.
Yesterday Kimmi used hard, today Seb's final stint slower than 3 rd... looks like this year Ferrari is carrying the bags of sand
Melbourne!
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Wish it be an exciting season...
Good luck everybody!

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So that's it guys, presason testing is done. Cant wait for the fist race!!!!
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Chene_Mostert wrote:
StrikeForceF1 wrote:
snowy wrote:Mercedes and Ferrari final stints:
LH 1:27.0 1:27.2 1:27.2 1:27.1 1:27.1 1:27.2 1:27.2 1:27.0 1:27.4 1:27.2 1:27.5 1:27.4 1:27.4 1:27.4 1:27.6 1:27.4 1:27.5 1:27.8 1:28.4 1:28.8
NR 1:26.2 1:27.7 1:27.7 1:27.8 1:27.3 1:27.5 1:27.8 1:28.4 1:28.4 1:28.8 1:35.1 1:28.4 1:28.3 1:28.4 1:28.6 1:29.2 1:29.0
SV 1:27.5 1:27.5 1:28.3 1:29.2 1:28.3 1:28.9 1:28.7 1:28.4 1:28.5 1.28.3
KR 1:27.4 1:27.2 1:28.6 1:28.4 1:28.6 1:29.0 1:28.2 1:28.9 1:29.1 1:28.6 1:29.0 1:31.1 1:29.3 1:29.4 1:31.5 (H)
Snowy do you know on what tyres the final stints were done...Thanks for all the info...over the weekend when I have a bit more time I will do some extrapolations and see if I find anything to share with you guys
Like I said yesterday, I get the idea Ferrari is trying to hide their low fuel pace.
Yesterday Kimmi used hard, today Seb's final stint slower than 3 rd... looks like this year Ferrari is carrying the bags of sand
Melbourne!
Hope they remember to unload those sand bags when they run in Melbourne :D

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Where is this 3 tenths coming from? Seems to me if anything, Raikkonen was fastest man in race sim (except for last stint on hard tires). BTW you cannot compare averages like that since longer the stint, bigger the difference in seconds will be.
ME4ME wrote:
snowy wrote:Mercedes and Ferrari final stints:
LH 1:27.0 1:27.2 1:27.2 1:27.1 1:27.1 1:27.2 1:27.2 1:27.0 1:27.4 1:27.2 1:27.5 1:27.4 1:27.4 1:27.4 1:27.6 1:27.4 1:27.5 1:27.8 1:28.4 1:28.8
NR 1:26.2 1:27.7 1:27.7 1:27.8 1:27.3 1:27.5 1:27.8 1:28.4 1:28.4 1:28.8 1:35.1 1:28.4 1:28.3 1:28.4 1:28.6 1:29.2 1:29.0
SV 1:27.5 1:27.5 1:28.3 1:29.2 1:28.3 1:28.9 1:28.7 1:28.4 1:28.5 1.28.3
KR 1:27.4 1:27.2 1:28.6 1:28.4 1:28.6 1:29.0 1:28.2 1:28.9 1:29.1 1:28.6 1:29.0 1:31.1 1:29.3 1:29.4 1:31.5 (H)
Mercedes easily in the 1:27's, while Ferrari only manage 2 laps. At this point I don't think Ferrari are any closer then they were at the end of 2015.
Kimi was on hard tires though.
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