2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

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2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

Postby ChrisDanger » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:32 pm

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FIA Event and Timing Information:
http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-one-world-championship/season-2016/event-timing-information-1

Stats and Times:
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Track Map:
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Tyre Allocation:
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2015 Qualifying Results:
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2015 Race Results:
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2015 Pole Lap:
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World Constructors' Championship Standings:
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Re: 2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

Postby ChrisDanger » Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:46 pm

Well, this race is at least bound to have an eventful outcome.

In other news Verstappen needs 6 points more than Vettel to jump up to 4th overall. Verstappen 3rd, Vettel 6th or lower (out at the first corner?), is quite possible.

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Re: 2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

Postby Pierce89 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:00 pm

Stoffel still in the top 20.....lol. I wish Manor, Sauber and Renault were just that little bit quicker to be actually points capable.
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Re: 2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

Postby NAPI10 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:06 pm

Equation for Hamilton to become WC-
a. Victory with Rosberg 4th or less
b. 2nd with Rosberg 8th or less
c. 3rd with Rosberg 9th or less

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Re: 2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

Postby raksf1 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:59 am

I think force india will out pace williams...

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Re: 2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

Postby Samraj_official » Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:55 am

raksf1 wrote:I think force india will out pace williams...


ofcourse, force india is a traction beast, and abu dhabi is a stop-go circuit and this favours both FI and Perez together!!!!

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Re: 2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

Postby iotar__ » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:03 pm

At this stage it's like with Alonso - Vettel I don't really care any more, these seasons just like Brazil race drag for too long. One millionaire beats another in some fake sport to sell expensive cars, who cares?

2 days later - what about '17, let's check some news :-).

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Re: 2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

Postby Unc1eM0nty » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:42 pm

I remember reading somewhere last week that is was difficult to pass here, what's the problem ? both turns 8 & 11 look like good opportunities.

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Re: 2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

Postby FrukostScones » Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:36 pm

Unc1eM0nty wrote:I remember reading somewhere last week that is was difficult to pass here, what's the problem ? both turns 8 & 11 look like good opportunities.


don't believe everything you read.

But pre-DRS it was defintely not easy :mrgreen: ask ALO.
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Re: 2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

Postby basti313 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:59 pm

Unc1eM0nty wrote:I remember reading somewhere last week that is was difficult to pass here, what's the problem ? both turns 8 & 11 look like good opportunities.

The overtaking itself is not difficult. The problem is, that it is an easy track during the race. While for example the last turn is difficult in Q, no one messes up during the race. So race speed between similar cars is similar and it is not possible to follow through turn 3. Additionally the strategy was too clear and the undercut not efficient.

Might be better this year with maybe slightly different strategies. 1-stop will be impossible like usual, but the we might see SS gambles with US-SS-S or US-S-SS.

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Re: 2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

Postby WaikeCU » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:58 pm

I guess there's two different races Lewis can drive:
1) Do his best as he can and hope Nico doesn't end up on the podium
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2) Win as slow as he can

Option 1: To do his best as possible and totally dominate the race, but then you have to hope Nico somehow doesn't end up on the podium.

Option 2: Drive slower in front to bunch Nico into the cars behind and hope Red Bulls or Ferrari's can attempt an overtake. Sort of taking Nico out of the comfort zone. When Nico is put under pressure, then he'll maybe make a mistake.
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Re: 2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

Postby godlameroso » Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:06 pm

Any takers on pole time?

I'm guessing a 1:39.5 ish.

It's a very difficult track to get a good lap on, many people think that the two straights is where you lose a lot of time, but the truth is only the first long straight after the U-turn requires a lot of engine grunt, the second straight is much shorter, and a good exit from that annoying chicane is more important to carrying speed.

The most critical corners are in no specific order, turns 2 & 3 in the race as they're not flat out. The braking through 4 & 5, exit off of 8, exit of 12, and then every turn until the end of the lap as it's one long corner combination with strange cadence and lots of off camber gradients.

The medium speed corners are the biggest difference makers.

In fact if I were to design an F1 car, I'd make it so that it's handling and downforce get it around sector 3 of the old defunct Indian GP track as fast as possible.
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Re: 2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

Postby Juzh » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:51 pm

godlameroso wrote:Any takers on pole time?

I'm guessing a 1:39.5 ish.

Conservative estimate, given the ultra soft tire available. But we did have kind of an underwhelming pole laptimes lately, especially compared to the massive improvements in the early part of the season. It seems the ultimate pace has cooled off a bit, whatever the reasons might be.

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Re: 2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

Postby godlameroso » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:23 pm

Maybe there was a big step in performance taken between the beginning of last year and Abu Dhabi, and another reason could be that the big improvements have come from having a step softer compound at a lot of races this year vs last year. Frankly Mercedes now, is probably about .6 .7 seconds faster in ultimate performance than last year given equal tires.

Also, I don't think there's much difference between the super and ultra softs to warrant anyone dipping into the 1:38's at all during the weekend. I could be wrong however.
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Re: 2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

Postby dans79 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:24 pm

Juzh wrote:
godlameroso wrote:Any takers on pole time?

I'm guessing a 1:39.5 ish.

Conservative estimate, given the ultra soft tire available. But we did have kind of an underwhelming pole laptimes lately, especially compared to the massive improvements in the early part of the season. It seems the ultimate pace has cooled off a bit, whatever the reasons might be.


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