WhiteBlue wrote:

gcdugas wrote:... If they can vote to convene by fax, why can't they vote to expel Max via the same mechanism? Answer: They certainly can. ...

if you are interested to know what the statues are please inform yourself

http://www.fia.com/thefia/statutes/Files/index.html and there article 8

.......

guy_smiley wrote:.... I think Max should go. In fact, I think he should have been forced out as soon as the story broke.....

.....

the only alternative way to remove Mosley from governing F1 racing would have been a revolt of the teams and the FOM cutting away from the FIA and creating a new sanctioning body.

Die mit der Aufklärung des Falles beauftragte Detektei Quest hat mittlerweile ein zweites Video sichergestellt, auf dem zu erkennen ist, wie eine der Prostituierten vorab instruiert wurde. Sie sollte Mosley in Szenen zu verwickeln, die man später als Nazi-Verherrlichung deuten kann. Es war eindeutig das Machwerk von Profis. Die mit der Spezialkamera ausgerüstete Prostituierte ist die Frau eines ehemaligen MI 5-Agenten, der Spezialist für Observierungen ist.

Dieser hatte zunächst angegeben, von der Sache erst hinterher erfahren zu haben und nicht in den Fall verwickelt gewesen zu sein. Auf dem besagten zweiten Video ist jedoch zu hören, dass der angeblich unbeteiligte Ex-Agent seiner Frau Anweisungen gibt, wie sie die Kamera, mit der Mosley gefilmt wurde, zu installieren hat. Mosley erhofft sich von der Enttarnung der Hintermänner eine Rehabilitierung. Und vielleicht bringt die Aufklärung auch ein ganz neues Licht in den Kampf um die Vorherrschaft in der Formel 1.

Quest, the firm comissioned with investigating the case (by Mosley) have secured a further video in the meantime showing how one of the prostitutes is receiving preparatory instructons. She is supposed to involve Mosley in scenes that can be later interpreted as Nazi appreciation. This are undoubtedly seedy manipulations of professionals. The prostitute operating the mini camera is the wife of the ex-MI5 agent who is specialised in observations. he has asserted that he only became aware of the operation when it was over and that he wasn't involved. On said second video the supposedly uninvolved ex-agent can be overheared giving his wife instructions how to install the camera used to film Mosley. Mosley hopes to rehabilitate himself by exposing the initiators of the sting. Perhaps these relevations cast completely new light on the fight for power in Formula 1.

Howett played down rumours of a breakaway championship being put together, even though some teams are considering all options at the moment in light of the situation between Ecclestone and Mosley.

When asked if the breakaway talk was genuine, Howett said: "I don't really think so. Some people mentioned that, but it was part of the general rabble of discussion. The general view is not. I think we just have to consolidate a Concorde."

Howett suggested that if matters reached a head and some teams considered a breakaway championship, Toyota would be unlikely to join.

"I think when you look from the outside at people who have broken away, it doesn't work. The successful series are those where the manufacturers remain and there is one series.

"As soon as you divide, then both series suffer. We need to consolidate the previous Concorde Agreement in a modern, clean and fresh way."

Wir arbeiten an einem Concorde-Agreement. Wenn es um das Technische Reglement geht, machen mich die Teams verrückt . Translation: We are working on a new concord agreement. Regarding technical regulations the teams are driving me crazy.

Conceptual wrote:WOW.

This could be the greatest thing ever, or the worst thing ever.

It is all going to come down to who is in charge and making the rules. I know that Bernie will have the tracks lined up, and probably goto a 24 race calendar.

If the FOM breaks away, the teams will need incentive to follow. That will require more power for the teams, and quite possibly a race in the US for marketing.

Just like the IndyCart merger... The potential is enormous. It all comes down to planning and execution.

I nominate the name "Uber Formula" for the new series. I think that would be sweet!

Chris

The FIA is a strong body. It has won legal recognition over a 100-year period and enjoys consultative status with the United Nations and the Council of Europe. In short, the FIA can run motor racing - a small part of its activities - as it pleases. There can be outlaw championships but these must be completely independent. The FIA issues licences for drivers, teams, circuits, stewards, scrutineers, marshals and medical and any FIA licensee involved in a rebel championships could be sanctioned it the events did not meet FIA standards.

Ecclestone dismisses talk of breakaway series
07/06/2008 - 20:23:39
Formula One commercial rights holder Bernie Ecclestone has dismissed talk of a breakaway championship in the sport.

With the current wave of outrage over the continuing presence of Max Mosley as president of governing body FIA, Ecclestone was reported to have taken part in discussions to explore the possibility of starting a new championship outside the FIA’s jurisdiction.

Speculation about a breakaway intensified today ahead of Canadian Grand Prix qualifying as team principals met with Ecclestone for the second time this weekend.

The Formula One chief, however, denied a parting of the ways with the FIA had been on the agenda and revealed the team bosses had been discussing a new Concorde agreement, a contract between the teams, Ecclestone’s Formula One Management and the FIA which sets out the guidelines under which the sport is run.

“Nobody has discussed a breakaway series,” Ecclestone said as he made an unscheduled visit to the Grand Prix media centre at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve.

“We have been discussing what we are putting in a Concorde Agreement, which we have spent two years trying to get signed.”

Mosley is known to be talking tough on the terms of the new Concorde Agreement while Ecclestone said the teams were divided at present.

“I think Max would really like a Concorde Agreement a little more suited to the FIA while the teams are against each other,” said Ecclestone.

“One wants a wind tunnel, others don’t want wind tunnels, some want half a wind tunnel, that’s how it is. Been like it forever.”

Ecclestone rejected an alternative governing body to sanction regulations adding: “There wouldn’t be any difference, they’d still be arguing amongst the teams about what they want.”

He said a new Concorde Agreement was vital to keeping sponsors on board in the sport, particularly as the Mosley controversy looked set to remain in the wake of his successful vote of confidence from FIA member organisations last week.

“The sponsors need stability,” Ecclestone said. “This has been an emergency for two years. Teams are in this championship and they have no ideas what the rules are.”

Asked how long it would take to reach an agreement, Ecclestone joked: “Two or three days – if we all agree.”

Yet he added there may be signs of progress following Friday night and Saturday’s meetings.

“I think today we’ve got to the position where everybody needs to give a little bit.”

Asked if the team principals were beginning to reach an understanding, he added: “Yes.”