Ciro Pabón wrote:Now, if you want to convince me (and I guess, some other people in this forum) about so many conclusions, would you be so kind as to post at least a couple of numbers that support them? This is a technical forum, I'm sure most members can dig those numbers...
kilcoo316 wrote:You losing it Ciro?!?!
If you want to watch open wheels on ovals.... you heard about the IRL right?
Ciro Pabón wrote:I'm curious about this "bunching", because I think that part of this tightening is the result of smaller, "odd" teams, like Minardi (as Giblet wisely points out), relentlessly expelled from F1, plus all the "spec-ing". I sincerely fail to see what part played the OWG in that, except the very notorious part they played in the "DDD affair". That prevents me from agreeing with the thread title.
Q. Ross, would you like to start on the overtaking situation as you and Pat were on the overtaking working group I think.
Ross BRAWN: No, I wasn't. Pat was. Our drivers are reporting that the cars are easier to follow. They have still got an imbalance when they follow other cars. But the cars are easier to follow. At the moment we have got the situation that some cars have KERS and some are without KERS. We have had several occasions where we have managed to get on the back of a car with KERS and we can't overtake it as it uses KERS to pull away, so we have got a little bit of an odd situation at the moment but the general impression from our guys is that the cars are better and because they have got this adjustable front wing it also helps to get the car set up when you are coming up behind someone.
Q. Pat, has it pretty much worked the way you thought it was going to?
Pat SYMONDS: I have to say I am not completely sure. We are on race five now. We have had a couple of wet races, Australia is always a difficult track anyway. I have been quite impressed with the way the Brawns have overtaken us a couple of times, so maybe it has worked or maybe they are just quicker than us. But as Ross says the KERS is clouding things as well and I think it is certainly easier to follow now and that is what we set out to do. But it is not the magic panacea.
Since a couple of races I changed my opinion. And after Today's race at Silverstone, I think the OWG has failed their job. Both Hamilton and Alonso -two highly talented drivers- couldn't get passed the driving BMW-chicanes. At the beginning of the race Heidfeld had damaged his front wing, lost quite a lot of front end downforce and was about 1.5 seconds slower than Fisichella. Despite all of that, he could easily keep Alonso behind.
Pingguest wrote:Since a couple of races I changed my opinion. And after Today's race at Silverstone, I think the OWG has failed their job.
kilcoo316 wrote:It is a bit unfair to blame the OWG for events beyond their control (i.e. the MSWC deciding to make the DDD legal).
Pingguest wrote:The only thing the FIA did was copying the OWG's proposed regulations. Members of the OWG (Ross Brawn for example) knew about the loop hole and they didn't change anything. The double decker diffuser may not have been intended by the OWG, but it certainly is their responsibility.
Pingguest wrote:However, I wonder the effects of the double decker diffuser for the overtaking. Back in Australia drivers already complained about overtaking still being too difficult although that diffuser was used by only three teams. The most overtaking we've see so far was due to fuel and tyre compounds.
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