kilcoo316 wrote:You losing it Ciro?!?!
If you want to watch open wheels on ovals.... you heard about the IRL right?
Sure, I want to watch open wheels on ovals. I followed CART religiously for many years and now, once in a while, watch an IRL race, and sincerely, I miss that feeling of pure speed and good, clean aerodynamics.
I don't see what's wrong with one
oval for F1. It's really that heretic? In times of yore, even in Europe they held that kind of races. That would test "pure aerodynamics", that's all I'm saying. Drag coefficients for F1 are horrible, the cars could run with a canvas sail on top and it wouldn't be that bad as with all the many apendixes and winglets we had to contemplate until last year (sorry, Scotracer, altough I share your admiration for Touring, I like the new regulations about the body).
I agree with Giblet, Ogami and Kilcoo about the thight field. I think we do not have to wait until the end of the year to prove it, as Giblet suggests. A quick analysis of top speeds and the "bunching" you could find at lap times is enough.
However, that's not the point I'm talking about: the point I'm raising is how "right made it" the OWG. Do you really think that bunching is not caused mainly by the spec tyres, plus all the regulations about engines, gearboxes and the such? Then explain why.
Actually, is the field tightened? I think so, but I have no proof
. I sincerely would like to "add" that argument to yours and if I have the time I will do it. What distinguishes F1 Technical (I humbly think) from other forums is our collective ability to collate figures and provide definitive
answers based on facts that everybody see but few interprete.
I'm curious about this "bunching", because I think that part of this tightening is the result of smaller, "odd" teams, like Minardi (as Giblet wisely points out), relentlessly expelled from F1, plus all the "spec-ing". I sincerely fail to see what part played the OWG in that, except the very notorious part they played in the "DDD affair". That prevents me from agreeing with the thread title.
About my mental health, you know the old saying: "you cannot claim you're losing it: for you to post here, you have to be crazy already".
Anyway, as a mod, I take the opportunity (thanks, guys) to repeat another mantra: attack the post, not the poster. I'm not saying anything about you
but about some reasonings in this thread. I'm sorry if I've written posts that can be seen in that way and I apologize if that's the case.
However, I have not mentioned member names
, except the ones of people not in the forum, like team technical directors and the such. Please, I ask you (not only kilcoo or Ogami, but everybody) to do the same. I'm not talking about me (I truly do not care, I love
to argue about F1 and rarely respond in the same manner), but about everybody. There have been a lot of threads that have become sour lately (intense, in the words of Giblet) because of that custom.
I repeat: next time you want to say "XXX, you're a moron" it's easy to say instead "XXX, your argument is moronic". There is a world of difference: the former brings insults to the thread, the second, long and interesting arguments.
Perhaps too long. Time for me to shut up, I've already said most of what I can contribute to this thread.