RacingManiac wrote:Wheel fairings are always aerodynamic aids, but they are allowed because they are packaged within the space of brake cooling. Just like DDD exists outside of the area of diffuser packaging.....
Conceptual wrote:Well, I think that they were on the chopping block for 2010, and with that statement, Symonds may have put the nail in the coffin.
RacingManiac wrote:btw, I am sure its not the fairing itself that adds downforce, more to the effect of it conditions the flow that adds downforce on the other appendages on the car...
Metar wrote:He doesn't know any more than you know that it does. All we know - and that for certain - is that it creates some benefit. Drag-reduction, downforce, or both - we can't know without data from the teams.
For a thread that didn't have much of a point in the first place, there's no use arguing over the exact wordings of people's posts.
Can you update us on the team's development programme as the European season begins?The whole team is still pushing hard with development and the diffuser and floor that we brought to China was very much a first attempt and over the course of the year we will see several more versions, the first of which we hope to have in Barcelona.
In addition, we've got new wheel fairings this weekend with quite a major design change to give us an increase in downforce and a new rear wing. On top of that we've got a few small aerodynamic tweaks that we will introduce on a race-by-race basis. Overall we can expect a reasonable step in performance for Barcelona.
RacingManiac wrote:I don't know for sure, but I do know that fairing are used to control the flows in and around the wheels, which, uncontrolled, disrupts the flow that goes to the rear wing, and or other parts of the car down stream of it. Pat Symond stated that they get more downforce running the new fairing, he didn't exactly said that they got it from the new fairing, they got it with the new fairing. If it reduces the disruption to the rear wing, that would give you more downforce too....
If you think it got it from the fairing, thats your business and you are entitled to that.
In MY opinion(much like I AM Sure, which is MY opinion), the fact that much of the aero bits that are banned this year shifted their attention more to the area they can work with relative freedom, such as the brake ducting.....A lot of the bits and pieces on the car before doesn't necessarily produce downforce on their own, but working with other parts they increases the downforce of the car. And it is not a far stretch assumption in my mind that that its what he was refering to.....
3.15 Aerodynamic influence :
With the exception of the cover described in Article 6.5.2 (when used in the pit lane), the driver adjustable
bodywork described in Article 3.18 and the ducts described in Article 11.4, any specific part of the car
influencing its aerodynamic performance :
- must comply with the rules relating to bodywork ;
2009 F1 Technical Regulations 14 of 67 17 March 2009
- must be rigidly secured to the entirely sprung part of the car (rigidly secured means not having any
degree of freedom) ;
- must remain immobile in relation to the sprung part of the car.
11.4 Air ducts :
Air ducts around the front and rear brakes will be considered part of the braking system and shall not
protrude beyond :
- a plane parallel to the ground situated at a distance of 160mm above the horizontal centre line of
the wheel ;
- a plane parallel to the ground situated at a distance of 160mm below the horizontal centre line of
the wheel ;
- a vertical plane parallel to the inner face of the wheel rim and displaced from it by 120mm toward
the centre line of the car.
Furthermore, when viewed from the side the ducts must not protrude forwards beyond a radius of 330mm
from the centre of the wheel or backwards beyond a radius of 180mm from the centre of the wheel.
All measurements will be made with the wheel held in a vertical position.
Conceptual wrote:The point is that for all of Briatore's running at the mouth, he was proven absolutely wrong on the legality of the DDD, and now his team is HAPPY that he was wrong, because their car was utter crap, and now the "illegal" part that Flavio said was the worst is now the ONLY thing that is making their car any better.
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