What is your favorite banned F1 technology?

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Which is your fav?

Movable aerodynamics
14
13%
Ground effect
25
23%
Fan car (Brabbam)
6
6%
Six wheelers
6
6%
Active cars
28
26%
Twin chassis (Lotus)
6
6%
Turbos
24
22%
 
Total votes : 109

Post Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:43 am

Venom wrote:Mass Dampers :mrgreen:
:lol:
yin
 
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Post Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:21 am

Okay I Googled 'twin chassis' and got this

.[img]IMG:250:250]http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/Ted68_2006/IZ1228_m.jpg[/img]

I'm guessing this is not what Chapman fought for. Anyone have a better explaination for me? Thanks
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Post Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:58 pm

Ted68 wrote:Okay I Googled 'twin chassis' and got this

.[img]IMG:250:250]http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/Ted68_2006/IZ1228_m.jpg[/img]

I'm guessing this is not what Chapman fought for. Anyone have a better explaination for me? Thanks


http://www.f1technical.net/f1db/cars/473
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Post Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:05 pm

hollowBallistix wrote:
Ted68 wrote:Okay I Googled 'twin chassis' and got this

.[img]IMG:250:250]http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/Ted68_2006/IZ1228_m.jpg[/img]

I'm guessing this is not what Chapman fought for. Anyone have a better explaination for me? Thanks


http://www.f1technical.net/f1db/cars/473


&

http://www.grandprix.com/ft/ftpw021.html
hollowBallistix
 
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Post Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:22 pm

wiley wrote:CVT transmission (Not normally considered with other active technologies, but Williams tested it!)



This was mentioned in an article I translated into Turkish a couple years back. Coulthard tested it in a Williams in 1993, the rumoured time gain per lap was a whopping 3 seconds. Everything else on the car was the same, so the time gain was coming only from the CVT. Too bad it was banned. I think it's one of those things directly related to road-going cars and F1 was (still is) the perfect place to hone it.


edit: Lol the topic is 4 years old, just realised it now. Is wiley still around :P
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Post Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:27 pm

Shrieker wrote:
wiley wrote:CVT transmission (Not normally considered with other active technologies, but Williams tested it!)



This was mentioned in an article I translated into Turkish a couple years back. Coulthard tested it in a Williams in 1993, the rumoured time gain per lap was a whopping 3 seconds. Everything else on the car was the same, so the time gain was coming only from the CVT. Too bad it was banned. I think it's one of those things directly related to road-going cars and F1 was (still is) the perfect place to hone it.

There is video of it and it doesn't sound very, well, F1. An example of where road car relevance would be detrimental to the "theatre" of F1.
Just_a_fan
 
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Post Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:29 pm

Shrieker wrote:
wiley wrote:CVT transmission (Not normally considered with other active technologies, but Williams tested it!)



This was mentioned in an article I translated into Turkish a couple years back. Coulthard tested it in a Williams in 1993, the rumoured time gain per lap was a whopping 3 seconds. Everything else on the car was the same, so the time gain was coming only from the CVT. Too bad it was banned. I think it's one of those things directly related to road-going cars and F1 was (still is) the perfect place to hone it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3UpBKXMRto
hollowBallistix
 
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Post Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:39 pm

Just_a_fan wrote:There is video of it and it doesn't sound very, well, F1. An example of where road car relevance would be detrimental to the "theatre" of F1.


If you're referring to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3UpBKXMRto, well... no wonder it does not sound as expected, damp conditions + he is just trundling around. Or maybe there are other vids of FW15 with the CV15 ?
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Post Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:56 pm

that's the thing though, it'll always sound like that once it gets to the optimum operating RPM range, the ECU and Gearbox are directly linked, so it adjusts the transmission constantly to maintain within that RPM range !

would sound god damn awful !!!
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Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:54 am

All the efficiency technologies like turbos, direct injection, variable valves and self ignition. From the chassis side flexible body parts or generally the ban on ground effect and movable aerodynamic devices, inerters and such things that increase mechanical grip and reduce drag. I also dislike the general restrictions on engine type and energy recovery systems. I think fuel and budget restrictions are better and would provide more innovations that benefit the society as a whole than very tight technical restrictions.
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Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:46 am

I like those technologies as well but some of it has been banned for safety reasons. How can we have less restrictions and still keep safety as priority? Sometimes these two concerns seem to be at odds with each other.
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Location: Sydney, Australia.

Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:48 am

How about 4WD?
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Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:50 am

my favourite is Beryllium engine by McLaren-Mercedes. This is my favourite banned so called technology where Ferrari is very very very and very frighten of it. If this beryllium engine not banned... i don't think that Schumi will be 7 times champion.. it might be Mika Hakkinen 9 time champions! 9 times champion? Schumi fans might laugh at me later on....... ***LOL!!!***
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Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:00 am

chepoi wrote:my favourite is Beryllium engine by McLaren-Mercedes. This is my favourite banned so called technology where Ferrari is very very very and very frighten of it. If this beryllium engine not banned... i don't think that Schumi will be 7 times champion.. it might be Mika Hakkinen 9 time champions! 9 times chanpions? Schumi fans might laugh at me later on....... ***LOL!!!***


Mclaren shot themselves in the foot with the bad introduction of electronic aid in 2001, Michelin in 2002 and a skiny car in 2004, Mika and Beryllium would not have sorted out these issues.


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WilliamsF1
 
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Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:10 am

IIRC Ferrari, as well as Peugeot at that time, also used Beryllium.
IMHO this is one of the forum legends, widely popular among younger generations of F1 fans as an universal argument against evil Ferrari together with the banned third pedal :D
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