Magic pedal / paddle

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Post Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:11 am

My guess is that the engine has a more aggressive setting, and when the drivers are told to use the "magic paddle", they pull one of the two top paddles and engage the optional engine setting.
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Post Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:09 am

scuderiafan wrote:My guess is that the engine has a more aggressive setting, and when the drivers are told to use the "magic paddle", they pull one of the two top paddles and engage the optional engine setting.



That would not be legal anymore with the new EMAP regulations?
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Post Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:26 am

Holm86 wrote:
scuderiafan wrote:My guess is that the engine has a more aggressive setting, and when the drivers are told to use the "magic paddle", they pull one of the two top paddles and engage the optional engine setting.



That would not be legal anymore with the new EMAP regulations?

I think the current regulations DO allow such a setup - if you have enough map space available in the SECU (not sure how many maps it can contain.
As I understand it, the new regulation just meant that the teams couldn't digitally swap out the engine mapping in Parc Ferme.
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Post Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:29 am

QLDriver wrote:
Holm86 wrote:
scuderiafan wrote:My guess is that the engine has a more aggressive setting, and when the drivers are told to use the "magic paddle", they pull one of the two top paddles and engage the optional engine setting.



That would not be legal anymore with the new EMAP regulations?

I think the current regulations DO allow such a setup - if you have enough map space available in the SECU (not sure how many maps it can contain.
As I understand it, the new regulation just meant that the teams couldn't digitally swap out the engine mapping in Parc Ferme.


Correct, engine maps can be changed by the driver on the steering wheel. The regulation was changed to include the SECU within Parc Ferme so the car can no longer be changed via a laptop between quali and race.
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Post Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:35 am

As I understand it now the map cannot be changed from Q1 onwards and will be carried into Parc Ferme; however PARAMETERS of the map can be changed.
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Post Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:18 am

raymondu999 wrote:As I understand it now the map cannot be changed from Q1 onwards and will be carried into Parc Ferme; however PARAMETERS of the map can be changed.


that is not really saying anything or better :still allowed everything.

You could activate hot blowing but set the fuel on cycle close to zero effectively not doing any hot blowing,right?
You could retard the ignition ,but only by .001degrees.
you could even open the throttle instead of 90 to just 1degree,couldn´t you?

so it is more or less just a work exercise in park ferme instead of uploading the correct map.
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Post Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:14 pm

I may be way off, if so please enlighten me.

I remember hearing or reading somewhere that some teams have two gear shift paddles per side on the back of the steering wheel. One set of paddles is for a higher speed corner exit and the other set is for exiting low speed corners. I heard they change the mapping setting of the engine slightly so as to allow for a better exit, whatever that entails.

Although it has just occurred to me that you would only need one extra paddle for upshifting seemingly...

Edit: relevant Seems the maps change with gear, not by corner or what have you.
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Post Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:02 pm

I think it was in spain or an earlier gp(maybe china?) and either schui or jenson was told to use it, and later on in the broadcast martin and david said it may be a paddle on the steering wheel that activates both the KERS and DRS.
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Post Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:32 am

It was Schumi in Q2 Turkey or Q3. In Germany; the BBC commentators incorrectly attributed that "Magic Paddle" radio message to McLaren, instead of Merc. End of story.
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Post Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:26 pm

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so what is this secret BRAKE pedal then?
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Post Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:33 am

Is it possible for anybody to scan the article from Autosport for the members who don´t have access to this magazine?
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Post Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:10 pm

I read the article in the newsagent. The "switch" is not a physical switch as in a light switch but was the switching between two different brake systems. Hamilton changed from one supplier's disk to another's.
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Post Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:18 pm

Carbone Industries to Brembo IIRC. Or I could have it in reverse.
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Post Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:06 am

Does anyone know how this magic paddle actually works?
Can it brake either side if the rear wheel (if yes, how?)
or just brake both altogether?
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