Jerez Testing, Sep. 2007

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Jerez Testing, Sep. 2007

Postby FLC » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:24 pm

Honda introduced the revised car. Surprise, surprise, look at the front wing.

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Postby mini696 » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:36 pm

They must have got hold of McLarens data.

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Postby whiplash » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:52 pm

Any chance of getting more detailed pictures of the honda plz

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Postby FLC » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:04 pm

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Postby whiplash » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:12 pm

Thanks Bud

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Postby scarbs » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:04 pm

ignoring the three element front wing and bridge flap, for me the most interesting thing is the change to larger rear mounted bargeboards. This is a major change for Honda and many other aerodynamicists believe is the key for a modern F1 car.

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PS they've dropped the pod wings too

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Postby FLC » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:42 pm

scarbs, do you know maybe what Ferrari is doing? They took off almost every aerodynamic feature from the front of the car:
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No "knives", no front wheels rims, no camera monuntings, which by the way was just updated for Spa:
[url]http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2007/783/473.html[/url]

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Postby m3_lover » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:13 pm

I have been reading that Honda hindered SA during the Belgium GP by making them not put there Spa-spec wing on there car because they didn't want to be further em brassed that SA was beating Honda.

Question for Scarbs (since he would be closest to knowing this) Are these improvements concepts for the car for next year or are they going to be used for the last 3 races?
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Postby scarbs » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:43 pm

Ferrari testing without the wheel fairings and cockpit fins, I guess they are either seeking more front Df or are just trying out comparitive set ups. When they tested at Silverstone Massa was constantly components like these.

As far as Honda running these parts in Fuki, I guess if they work they might as well, assumign they have enough mapping completed to run the pre race simulations. Both Japanse teams are expected to have major upgrades.

I noticed Williams are running their static front wheel fairings (as are toyota), their versions are quite flat and have the opening much lower down the wheel (nearer 7 oclock than Ferraris 8), plus a small opening at the top.....

RedBull arent giving up on the pod mounted mirrors, you'd have thought they have more important things to test considering their pace and reliability

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Postby mx_tifoso » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:29 pm

Would the removal of so many '07 development parts be because Ferrari is testing '08 electronics for today (at least)? And they are focusing on finding the best setup with that in mind, so having aero elements from this year, with TC and other things as well, would have a different effect on what they are testing for. As the car behaves and performs in a different manner than this seasons setup allows.

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Postby Carlos » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:39 pm

I relate the effect of barge boards to strakes; smoothing and directing air flow. I still can't get over banning undertray tunnels and strakes. It should have been policed instead of banned. Allowing undertray developement would have fended off high nosed chassis with strange keels which have plagued suspension geometry and tire developement. Oh yes; and narrowing the track and tires. OT... yes I know; just a small rant. Thanks

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Postby waynes » Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:08 pm

that honda front wing is a sexy collection of carbon fibre

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Postby Carlos » Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:14 pm

Your right waynes - that wing is quite sexy - it reminded me to zip up my trousers before going outside this afternoon :wink:

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Postby waynes » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:51 pm

Carlos wrote:Your right waynes - that wing is quite sexy - it reminded me to zip up my trousers before going outside this afternoon :wink:


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Postby zac510 » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:59 pm

Carlos, how do you know that the combination of tunnels and a high nose is not superior to just one or the other?




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