As promised and with a mild delay I am starting this topic as somewhere to discuss the validity of the perception that Mclaren have a great "chassis" which is being held back by a "poor" Honda power unit.mrluke wrote:I'll go one better, ill start a new thread and go through all races this year with rbr vs Manor as an indicator on power vs chassis and see how that sits
For the avoidance of doubt my personal view is that Mclaren have a fairly average "chassis" and the Honda power unit is also fairly average, it doesn't match Mercedes but it is there or thereabouts with the Renault and last years Ferrari.
With that aside as much as possible I would like this thread to be backed by data. The data is always going to be somewhat lacking as this is F1 afterall but lets at least make the effort to ensure any claims are reflective of reality rather than just repeating what the F1 media or Mclaren's PR machine have pumped out.
I have gone through all of the races to date and pulled out the best qualifying time set by Mercedes, RBR, Mclaren and Manor to try and make some objective assessments. Both Austria and Hungary were affected by rain. Here is an image of the data, if there are any errors please shout.
I have then converted this into a % difference between the teams best qualy lap and the overall pole lap and plotted it on the graph below.
On the above I would draw particular attention to China, Russia, Monaco, Canada. Hungary, Belgium and Italy where we can see a suggestion of an inverse relationship between tracks that RBR do well at (vs Mercedes) and tracks that Mclaren do best at (vs Mercedes). The British GP seemed to be a particularly poor track for Mclaren.
The below is an overlay of RBRs performance against Mercedes, and Mclaren's performance against RBR.
It further reinforces that Mclaren's best performances tend to be where RBR are at their worst and vice versa. However it does normalize out Britain and suggest that instead this is a track that really plays to the strengths of Mercedes.
The claims for both Mclaren and RBR are the same, a great "chassis" produced by the teams, hindered by an under performing power unit.
Judging by the performances of both teams over the last 5 years, one team has a history of building great chassis, the other team not so much.
The data should show that Mclaren and RBR share strengths and weaknesses but instead it appears to suggest the opposite.
I was going to try and use Manor as a control to try to evaluate which tracks are power tracks and which are chassis tracks but Manor's performances, particularly at the start of the season, have not been consistent enough to provide a valid baseline.
Sorry for the wall of text but to finish with another bold prediction based on data, I do not expect Mclaren to do as well at Singapore as they have at Belgium and Italy.