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The F1 engine upgrade Red Bull Honda has secretly been using

Honda has been using an upgraded battery since the Formula 1 summer break that has yielded better engine and car performance.

F1 engine manufacturers were allowed to introduce one change of specification between the end of the 2020 season and the end of the 2021 season.

The Japanese manufacturer overhauled its engine design for 2021 and started the season with a heavily revised internal combustion engine.

However, Honda started the year with the 2020-specification battery, known in F1 as the energy store.

As it had not yet changed that component’s specification during the permitted period, it has been allowed to upgrade it during the season.

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From the Honda Racing site:

Our New Energy Store #F1

Honda will leave Formula 1 at the end of this season, but that doesn’t mean we will be lifting off in the closing stages of this era. In fact, quite the opposite.
Our New Energy Store #F1

Over a season that is made up of more than 20 races, it’s not possible to simply leave items undeveloped from the first race to the last if you want to be successful. Red Bull Racing has been pushing ahead with car upgrades, and the work has been ongoing within the power unit department, too.

The regulations permit each component of the power unit to be upgraded once per season, and the timing of those upgrades is at the different manufacturers discretion. We introduced some new components - such as the internal combustion engine (ICE) - over the winter in time for the start of the season, but the summer break also saw a further step forward from a new Energy Store (ES).

“This new ES has been developed in a project that has taken several years, with an aim to combine improvements in energy efficiency with significant reductions in weight,” Honda F1’s head of power unit development Yasuaki Asaki says.

“In what will be the company’s final season in the sport, Honda F1 has managed to introduce the new ES - fitted with a lighter, low-resistance, highly efficient and ultra-high power battery cell - just in time for the start of the second half of the season.

“In order to achieve the ultimate goal of defeating Mercedes and winning the championship before leaving F1 at the end of the 2021 season, we recognised the need to enhance performance. As such, the development plan for the new ES was brought forward substantially from the original goal of 2022 to introduction during the 2021 season.”

The ES was fitted to Max Verstappen's car at the Belgian Grand Prix, and he duly secured pole position on its first outing. The rain-affected race resulted in a half-points victory, but Max followed that up with a dominant display throughout the weekend at his home race in Zandvoort, securing pole position and taking a comfortable victory.

Max again started from pole in Monza, too, although he unfortunately failed to finish that race following contact with Lewis Hamilton. But the signs have been promising, after what was a huge amount of work to provide both performance and weight gains, the latter helping Red Bull optimise weight distribution.

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Honda Stages Rarest-Ever Exhibit To Spur On Red Bull’s F1 Victory Chances
Boasting the dual purpose of generating public support for and awareness of Red Bull Honda’s bid to win a long overdue F1 championship this year, while focusing attention on its legendary Grand Prix winning cars of three decades ago, Japan’s No 3 carmaker extracted it’s most prized possessions from a museum 80 miles north of Tokyo to create the rarest exhibit you’re ever likely to see.

Called ‘Honda F1 2021 2nd Stage,’ the exhibition, which runs until October 18 at the firm’s Aoyama headquarters in Tokyo, highlights two Williams Honda F1 cars from 1986 and 1987 and four McLaren Honda machines from 1988 through 1991, all of which are championship-winning cars. According to one source, this is only the second time that all of these title-winning cars have been displayed together in the one location.
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Race F1 2021 Round 15

Max Takes P2 From The Back Of The Grid In Russia
Sochi Autodrom

A dramatic Russian Grand Prix saw Max secure a sensational second place from 20th on the grid as rain hit the track in the closing stages.
Max Takes P2 From The Back Of The Grid In Russia

After the rain-hit qualifying session left a mixed-up grid but allowed a free choice of tyre, Sergio in ninth started on hard tyres, with Pierre in 11th and Max in 20th doing the same.

Yuki started on the mediums from 12th, but lost ground early on after going wide at Turn 2. The Red Bull Racing pair started making progress instantly, with Sergio passing Fernando Alonso for seventh place on lap three, and Max climbing three places on the opening lap before rising to 15th by Lap 4.

A great move from Max cleared Valtteri Bottas into Turn 12 a lap later and he then took 13th position from Pierre at the same corner. Max’s excellent drive continued when he took advantage of a battle ahead to pass Charles Leclerc and Sebastian Vettel by Lap 13, with Yuki then making his first pit stop to switch to hard tyres.

As more pit stops took place, Max was promoted to sixth two laps later, with Sergio in fourth and showing strong pace.

By the halfway stage, Max was starting to struggle with his tyres in traffic and so he stopped on Lap 26 to switch to mediums, mirroring Lewis Hamilton’s stop ahead of him. That released Sergio who continued for a number of laps and rose into the lead.

Pierre came in from sixth place for his first stop - switching to medium tyres - on Lap 33, while Sergio came in three laps later and looked set to mount a podium challenge. However, a slow stop cost him nearly nine seconds and dropped him back to fifth place.

Faced with a long stint on medium tyres, Max had to judge his pace and dropped to seventh but was still on for good points before rain started falling and led to a chaotic finish. Max was the first of the Honda-powered drivers to call for intermediate tyres with five laps remaining, having just overtaken Carlos Sainz on the greasy track.

It was the right call, but unfortunately for Yuki he had opted for softs at the same time and then needed to stop again two laps later for inters. Max showed the benefit by charging through the field from seventh to be third one lap later, and with Lando Norris trying to stay out in the lead on slicks, heavy rain forced the McLaren into the pits right at the end to promote Max to a stunning second place.

Sergio was less fortunate, having climbed to third ahead of Sainz before the rain. He stopped two laps after Max and dropped to ninth place at the flag, while Pierre was another to try and stay out on slicks having climbed into the points but eventually had to pit and was classified 13th, four places ahead of Yuki.

Toyoharu Tanabe Honda Racing F1

This was an exciting race with a chaotic finish when the rain came in the final laps. Max had already made up several places, after starting from 20th on the grid and then he and Red Bull Racing made just the right strategy call to bring him for rain tyres, which allowed him to pass more cars and finish second. That’s a very positive result for the championship, considering we took a PU penalty and had to start from the back row, because although Hamilton has retaken the lead, he is only two points in front. Checo did a very good job of managing his tyres in a long first stint and had a really good race, but he was unlucky to be caught out by the heavier rainfall and dropped to ninth. The two Scuderia AlphaTauri drivers were unable to make up places, stuck in a DRS train and it is somewhat disappointing therefore that they were unable to score any points. There are still seven races to go and it will be a tough battle for the championship, but for now, we are just focussing on the next race in Turkey.

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Wow, we will definitely take that result! Of course to come from last to second is very good and when I woke up this morning I definitely didn’t expect this result. To finish where we did with the penalty we had, we didn’t lose as many points as we could have so as a Team we did a really good job.
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at the start of season AT played a risky game for winning and then they just lost. Maybe because of that they were not so brave in this race. I was expect the them to take risk for all or nothing. But giving yuki inters was not risk even.
When you try to play in risky way you should accept all result and not allow it to affect you in a bad way like this.

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Wouter wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:59 am
Where's the Williams? :wtf:

Edit -- Oh I see, it's to the left out of frame. Poor choice of framing really, oh well. Nice to pass off a RB15 as a RB16B too. :P

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https://www.as-web.jp/f1/745021?all

Conducting an online event to replace the F1 Japan GP "If you can enjoy the atmosphere of the site as much as possible" / Interview with Honda Yamamoto MD

"Honda Japanese Virtual Grand Prix" will be held on the special page on the Honda official website from October 7th (Thursday) as a fan participation type online event to replace the F1 Japan GP at the canceled Suzuka Circuit Was announced."

Masashi Yamamoto Managing Director (hereinafter referred to as Yamamoto MD): At the Japanese Grand Prix, which was originally scheduled to be held in Suzuka from October 8th to 10th, we Honda invited Red Bull and Alpha Tauri to all the fans who visited us. We were preparing various projects so that we could fight together in the final year of Honda. However, since the Japanese Grand Prix has disappeared, we wanted to create an opportunity for fans to be pleased as much as possible, and with the cooperation of Red Bull and AlphaTauri, the Turkish Grand Prix was originally held one week later. It was scheduled to be held from October 8th to 10th, so I decided to hold an event on the WEB there.

──It seems that there is a public online live session where you can ask questions directly to Honda drivers.

Yamamoto MD: We are planning to hold a Q & A session for four Honda drivers on Thursday, October 7th.
Also, on Sunday, I and Tanabe (Toyoharu / Honda F1 Technical Director) will do a Q & A.

──Sunday before the race?

Yamamoto MD: Yes, before the race. The reason for this is that on Sundays, Tanabe will include the story of qualifying. The details of Sunday's plan have not been decided yet, but I will announce it after the official schedule of the Turkish Grand Prix is ​​decided.

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Honda is planning to use their Formula 1 technology toward a new eVTOL aircraft. They've also announced initiatives toward space exploration including rockets and life support systems utilizing their fuel-cell technology.

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Honda is planning to use their Formula 1 technology toward a new eVTOL aircraft. They've also announced initiatives toward space exploration including rockets and life support systems utilizing their fuel-cell technology.
1. Honda eVTOL (electric vertical take-off and landing) aircraft: will make mobility in he skies more accessible for people

・Honda eVTOL leverages Honda’s electrification technologies for its gas turbine hybrid power unit.
・Adoption of the hybrid power unit enables the extension of range, which will enable Honda eVTOL to provide inter-city (city-to-city) transportation, where the market size is expected to grow in the future.
・Honda will create a new “mobility ecosystem” featuring Honda eVTOL at its core, connected with mobility products on the ground.
I also thought this before. I think it is very good idea and being first is also important.

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Wouter wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:53 am
https://www.as-web.jp/f1/745021?all

Conducting an online event to replace the F1 Japan GP "If you can enjoy the atmosphere of the site as much as possible" / Interview with Honda Yamamoto MD

"Honda Japanese Virtual Grand Prix" will be held on the special page on the Honda official website from October 7th (Thursday) as a fan participation type online event to replace the F1 Japan GP at the canceled Suzuka Circuit Was announced."
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Yamamoto MD: We are planning to hold a Q & A session for four Honda drivers on Thursday, October 7th.
Also, on Sunday, I and Tanabe (Toyoharu / Honda F1 Technical Director) will do a Q & A.

──Sunday before the race?

Yamamoto MD: Yes, before the race. The reason for this is that on Sundays, Tanabe will include the story of qualifying. The details of Sunday's plan have not been decided yet, but I will announce it after the official schedule of the Turkish Grand Prix is ​​decided.

Tomorrow afternoon the activities of Honda will start. A first message:

#TurkishGP: Tomorrow 10/6 (Wed), Pierre GASLY and other RB drivers visit the Red Bull Racers event area in Ortaköy (Istanbul).
The event starts at 1:30 PM CET time.

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Setup F1 2021Round 16 #TurkishGP Race Setup
Istanbul Park
Wednesday, 6th October 2021

The battle continues in Turkey, with just two points separating Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen in the Drivers’ Championship.
#TurkishGP Race Setup

Last year’s race at Istanbul Park was a jam-packed affair, filled with spins and thrills. F1’s return to Turkey didn’t see the result we wanted that weekend, with wet weather playing it’s part and us not able to capitalise as well as we’d hoped.

The famous track is home to some iconic twists and turns, with an interlagos-esque opening segment and a renowned turn 8 that is now a sweeping flat-out blast downhill.

Last time out in Russia saw Max go from P20 to P2 at a dramatic race in Sochi, this weekend we’ll be hoping to keep our performance up and bring home a good haul of points with all four cars.

Toyoharu Tanabe
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After the last round in Russia, Formula 1 now starts to travel further from its mainly European base for the final races of the year, starting with this weekend’s Turkish Grand Prix, an event that returned to the calendar last year. The Istanbul Park circuit is situated in the suburbs of the Asian side of the city and is located in a hilly setting. The track itself has a good mix of all corner types from low to high speed, the most famous of which is the long multi-apex Turn 8 which places a lot of stress on the driver’s neck. At the last race, Max took his grid penalty and although he lost the championship lead, the gap to Hamilton is very small and now we can simply focus on getting the best possible result at each remaining race, starting this weekend in Turkey.

On the original calendar, this weekend should have seen us racing in the Japanese Grand Prix and it’s a real shame we cannot do so, because of concerns over the pandemic. Everyone at Honda was very much looking forward to racing competitively at our home track, with our Japanese driver Yuki in his F1 debut season, which is also our last one in the sport.
We know the Japanese fans are also disappointed and so we have prepared various on-line events specifically for them, as well as something special at the Istanbul track. We are keen to get a good result with all four drivers across both teams in Turkey and we have been working hard and studying last year’s data to be as well prepared as possible.

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The twin Red Bull Racing RB16B cars of Max Verstappen and team-mate Sergio Perez will feature a predominantly white livery inspired by the legendary Honda RA 272 car, in which US racer Richie Ginther secured the company's maiden Formula 1 win at the 1965 Mexican Grand Prix.
Meanwhile, at AlphaTauri, the rear wings of the AT02 cars driven by Pierre Gasly and Yuki Tsunoda will feature the one-word message ありがとう(arigato,) meaning "thank you".




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Hope they offer limited edition white merchandise to match this livery