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Oh jeez its like 1989 all over again just the other way round
HUH? Which direction is it going to run?
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strad wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 21:08
Oh jeez its like 1989 all over again just the other way round
HUH? Which direction is it going to run?
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thanks
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As an addition to this photo

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#F1 #DutchGP #Zandvoort The test asphalt is down on the Arie Luyendijk corner.
Now it will be evaluated if all the data confirms what was calculated before.
If all is okay, a permarnent layer will be added. Left bottom shows the foundation for the Champions Lounge.
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January 20, 2020
The Formula 1 teams do not receive the complete data from the renovated Circuit Zandvoort. According to designer Jarno Zaffelli, the teams do not consciously get that data to add a surprise element.

"Teams have the raw data, but not the entire circuit. We will keep that data to ourselves for a while. We do that because we don't want them to have the time to do simulations. That way there is an element of surprise in it. "
February 6, 2020
Dromo: "We do not withhold any data from Circuit Zandvoort for the teams"
"We want to provide the teams with data that is, as always, reliable. If we do not provide reliable data, it makes no sense. At the moment, the geometry of the circuit is already in line with the FIA, but there is always a tolerance in this geometry. "

"That is why the homologation only comes once the circuit has been laid. Because the F1 teams nowadays use very advanced simulators, we supply data that are accurate to the millimeter, with an error margin of a maximum of an inch or less. The reliability of the information and the density thereof is huge, but it is impossible to provide that before the circuit is built. "
Have the teams and / or the FIA ​​criticized this (raw data)?
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strad wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 21:08
Oh jeez its like 1989 all over again just the other way round
HUH? Which direction is it going to run?
No, in 1989 Senna (at suzuka) was told to turn around and rejoin the track against on coming traffic instead of the escape road as it was quicker. This is encouraging drivers to take the faster route rather than take any penalty in running across the grass.
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NathanOlder wrote:
06 Feb 2020, 12:51
strad wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 21:08
Oh jeez its like 1989 all over again just the other way round
HUH? Which direction is it going to run?
No, in 1989 Senna (at suzuka) was told to turn around and rejoin the track against on coming traffic instead of the escape road as it was quicker. This is encouraging drivers to take the faster route rather than take any penalty in running across the grass.
The escape road around Tarzan is so narrow, they will have to go (relatively, for an F1 car) slowly around the outside - that's not at all faster, and I doubt it will be different for any other corner, and otherwise, more than enough space in that big asphalt area to put a few cones to make them slalom before hitting the 'fast and narrow' of the escape road.

AMuS: zandvoort building-site (German) - pics (not very new) and their summary; was a overview to me.

Didn't quite realise that at not just the Arie Luyendijk corner (is it still a corner if they can go full throttle with DRS? Cool looking though!) but at least 4 corners will be made (somewhat to a lot) larger radius/faster, it's going to be very fast (and I suppose Pirelli will demand all the hardest tyres) - will be interesting to have another fast pace race a la Suzuka earlier in the season.

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bosyber wrote:
06 Feb 2020, 14:32
NathanOlder wrote:
06 Feb 2020, 12:51
strad wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 21:08

HUH? Which direction is it going to run?
No, in 1989 Senna (at suzuka) was told to turn around and rejoin the track against on coming traffic instead of the escape road as it was quicker. This is encouraging drivers to take the faster route rather than take any penalty in running across the grass.
The escape road around Tarzan is so narrow, they will have to go (relatively, for an F1 car) slowly around the outside - that's not at all faster
We weren't talking about Tarzan.
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Sure, but the FIA aren't completely stupid, and the part where I wrote "and otherwise, more than enough space in that big asphalt area to put a few cones to make them slalom before hitting the 'fast and narrow' of the escape road." definitely still works the same - let's not forget in the last few years they had quite a bit of experience with doing escape roads well at several tracks around the calender.

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bosyber wrote:
06 Feb 2020, 14:37
Sure, but the FIA aren't completely stupid, and the part where I wrote "and otherwise, more than enough space in that big asphalt area to put a few cones to make them slalom before hitting the 'fast and narrow' of the escape road." definitely still works the same - let's not forget in the last few years they had quite a bit of experience with doing escape roads well at several tracks around the calender.
Yeah, they just need to enforce the rules around them better. Have escape roads, have cones, go round them or get a penalty! no ifs or buts.
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I remember Gilles adventure at Tarzan. It was Gilles in a nutshell. Especially what he said when he got back to the pits. :wink:
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