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He described it as his best drive in his career.
But remember when the track was wet, Alonso were flyingSawtooth-spike wrote: Last years Rain master was Button without a doubt, The only wet race of the year and he won it.
whiplash wrote:There is no argument for me Senna was the rainmaster
Oh there we go again with Mr. Manchild! Our beloved Schumacher and Ferrari hater!manchild wrote:To determine who was "rain master" (title originally given to Senna) do following - add all crashes drivers from your list had in wet conditions and than you'll see that Senna is so far ahead and that Schuey is very average.
Schuey crashed twice in Spa on wet, once in Monaco, once in Brazil, he hit 2 or 3 drivers in Hungary 2006... as I've said put a list of all wet races driven by Senna, Schuey and someone else and than check how many DNF and collisions in such conditions each of them had and everything will be crystal clear to you.
Sorry but i dont see anything wrong with Manchilds Opinion. He was basicly saying that in his opinion Senna was "the Rain master". And Qualifyed that by saying if you to both there wet race records you would probably see Senna Has more DNF.kurtiejjj wrote:Oh there we go again with Mr. Manchild! Our beloved Schumacher and Ferrari hater!manchild wrote:To determine who was "rain master" (title originally given to Senna) do following - add all crashes drivers from your list had in wet conditions and than you'll see that Senna is so far ahead and that Schuey is very average.
Schuey crashed twice in Spa on wet, once in Monaco, once in Brazil, he hit 2 or 3 drivers in Hungary 2006... as I've said put a list of all wet races driven by Senna, Schuey and someone else and than check how many DNF and collisions in such conditions each of them had and everything will be crystal clear to you.
Now on a more serious not I would say the rainmaster could've been anyone from the 80s turbo era. I mean more than 750HP on the wheels in a car that was not as technologically and aerodynamically advanced current F1 cars with the same power would require some skill!
I would also say Jos verstappen he was quite great in a lot of wet races I remember him in the arrows driving on 3rd or 4th place for example!
I've lost you on this one. I wanted to say that Schuey had much more DNF and crashes on wet than Senna. As much as I can remember Senna had one spin on wet. I really can't remember him crashing and DNF on wet which is opposite to Schuey. Got to admit I've secretly hoped that Ciro will pop out with some of his amazing statistics with number of wet races Senna and Schuey participated in and results from those races so we can let the figures tell the truth.Sawtooth-spike wrote:And Qualifyed that by saying if you to both there wet race records you would probably see Senna Has more DNF.
Umm, please show me the cars he hit??manchild wrote:To determine who was "rain master" (title originally given to Senna) do following - add all crashes drivers from your list had in wet conditions and than you'll see that Senna is so far ahead and that Schuey is very average.
Schuey crashed twice in Spa on wet, once in Monaco, once in Brazil, he hit 2 or 3 drivers in Hungary 2006... as I've said put a list of all wet races driven by Senna, Schuey and someone else and than check how many DNF and collisions in such conditions each of them had and everything will be crystal clear to you.
Watch Schumi's China 2006 outlap on a drying track. Infact I"ll try post it just turn 1:Sawtooth-spike wrote:I would say Schumacher used to be a rain master.
But it recent Years we have seen a number of Wet race errors from him.
Hugary last year
Spa When he Hit DC
Brazil a few years ago
I know this is just a few but i am sure there is a few more.
Last years Rain master was Button without a doubt, The only wet race of the year and he won it.
Nice story Tom! I bet he learned that piece of unconventional driving style from his oval track days.Watch the qualifying for the 2000 British GP, Villenurve had a huge moment whle on the limit coming out of abbey and into bridge, had he just put on opposite lock he would have had a huge crash (and probably walked away like nothing had happened) instead he brakes so that the front wheels lock and flick back into line with the rears, downshifts to stop the read wheels spining and arrives at the apex of bridge flat as if nothing had happened. That was an iconic peice of driving for me, no one else paid any attention because Schumacher had just corrected a tiny slide with a measly bit of opposite lock and lost a second round vale.
At Indianapolis, if you use opposite lock during oversteer, you're into the wall head first before you can say sh%^! You have to go against your instincts and just let the car go and slide into the infield, or spin around and try and catch it down the straightaway (when you're pointed forwards of course)
These are the things that scared Schumacher whenever the topic of oval racing came up. He always got overly defensive at any mention of oval track racing.
What JV did at that British GP is something that can only come from experience. It rivals JV's pass on Schumi on the outside at 170mph at Portugal I believe it was. That also had oval experience written all over it.
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