Mercedes W17

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Shrieker wrote:
24 Jun 2026, 13:15
I'm seeing reports on alleged problems with the legality of the diffuser on this car? But nothing here which is quite curious.


Is it just gossip/hype/misinformation?
The FIA is reportedly set to ban Mercedes’ diffuser extensions through a Technical Directive (TD).

The clarification could be issued before Austria, though Mercedes are reportedly pushing for a delay.

This comes after Ferrari challenged the interpretation, arguing it opened the door to even more extreme diffuser concepts.

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I wonder how much that diffuser ban is worth in time.

It's quite interesting that Ferrari are bringing upgrades (that seem to work well) including a better engine this weekend and at the same time Mercedes are having speed increasing items removed like the compression testing and now the diffuser. At this rate they will likely converge in about 6 races time.

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djones wrote:
24 Jun 2026, 16:54
I wonder how much that diffuser ban is worth in time.

It's quite interesting that Ferrari are bringing upgrades (that seem to work well) including a better engine this weekend and at the same time Mercedes are having speed increasing items removed like the compression testing and now the diffuser. At this rate they will likely converge in about 6 races time.
I don't know if the time is the most important aspect for Mercedes to make the development. Some say that the rear end stability is improved by the solution and this allow Mercedes to use better the tires. Interesting that FIA main goal seems to be "to ban innovation".

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SilviuAgo wrote:
24 Jun 2026, 18:18
djones wrote:
24 Jun 2026, 16:54
I wonder how much that diffuser ban is worth in time.

It's quite interesting that Ferrari are bringing upgrades (that seem to work well) including a better engine this weekend and at the same time Mercedes are having speed increasing items removed like the compression testing and now the diffuser. At this rate they will likely converge in about 6 races time.
I don't know if the time is the most important aspect for Mercedes to make the development. Some say that the rear end stability is improved by the solution and this allow Mercedes to use better the tires. Interesting that FIA main goal seems to be "to ban innovation".
It's more that there was previously a reason that they prevented Ferrari developing a similar solution and the same logic may not have been applied.

When Ferrari appealed to the FIA, they did not simply say 'ah but there is X&Y difference between your ideas in pre-season and what Mercedes have brought'. That's telling imo

I believe that current situation is that fia has set Austrian GP as deadline for removal. And Mercedes are pushing for the deadline to be Silverstone

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djones wrote:
24 Jun 2026, 16:54
I wonder how much that diffuser ban is worth in time.

It's quite interesting that Ferrari are bringing upgrades (that seem to work well) including a better engine this weekend and at the same time Mercedes are having speed increasing items removed like the compression testing and now the diffuser. At this rate they will likely converge in about 6 races time.
That projection on convergence (no idea how you're calculating that to begin with but open to reading more) kind of assumes that Mercedes will stop developing the car and Ferrari will have zero issues with their new PU spec.