Renault F1 R.S. 20 Speculation Thread

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Renault F1 R.S. 20 Speculation Thread

Post Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:56 pm

This is the speculation Thread about the 2020 Renault F1 R.S. 20. Rumors, articles, ideas and fantasies about the car can be posted here. Once the car gets officially launched, this thread will be closed and discussion continues in the official Thread.
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Re: Renault F1 R.S. 20 Speculation Thread

Post Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:20 pm

Very curious to see if they will keep this extreme rake.

But I assume that 2020 will be (sadly) a very similar car to 2019, I would say a little evolution of it.
They declared that they want it to be more consistent and a better balance between qualy and race

As Renault need to prepare 2021 and the new head for chassis are just arriving there.

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Post Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:28 pm

Jambier wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:20 pm
Very curious to see if they will keep this extreme rake.

But I assume that 2020 will be (sadly) a very similar car to 2019, I would say a little evolution of it.
They declared that they want it to be more consistent and a better balance between qualy and race

As Renault need to prepare 2021 and the new head for chassis are just arriving there.
Sadly have to agree with you to be honest the last two cars have been really an evolution of the RS17. They all seem to also have the same flaw in terms of rear instability in prolonged cornering especially when the the front wheels are turned. If they can sort this out for next year they might be ok as the car this year was ok in the low speed corners. However the car was very nervous to drive on the limit in Qualifying which is where the McLaren was better but in the race as they are not driving to the limit it was a lot better.

In terms of the rake I would assume they would go less extreme as the regulation changes this year did not favour a high rake car it might give good peak downforce but maybe has issues with using it constantly throughout a lap which I think the team really suffered from this year.

However the main issue on the technical side is named Nick Chester he just isn't good enough to lead the technical team. The team also in the last 2 years have not developed well at all especially this year apart from the major update in France which didn't work as planned they didn't bring a much else throughout the year this must improve especially for 2021.

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Post Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:08 am

I think they are going to make some very serious changes to the car in 2020.
Ric has a lot of experience driving arguably the best chassis on the grid for 5 years straight.
And the problem was he never drove the car until testing 2019 which was too late to change the concept.

He basically told Renault the car is a complete piece of junk all round from braking, stability, handling, curb riding etc
They did as much as they could to fix some of the issues but they were all band aid solutions.
Similar to what Mclaren faced when they realised they had designed a parachute in 2018. They needed to wait until 2019 to fix all the issues and make a big step forward as no updates worked at all with their b spec car promises all failing.
Renault faced the same issues this year with the big France update failing completely also.

Renault now has a chance to make some serious changes and start the 2020 year very strong with input from Ric who would have told them all the flaws and what he wants changed.

I am very curious to see what revolutionary concept they come up with as they cannot evolve the current high rake design as it was a complete failure.

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Post Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:26 pm

Chester leaving renault

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Post Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:41 pm

Prost earlier in the year:

Prost's point about 2020 being a "very difficult season" for Renault might surprise some as the company try to once again became a top team in F1, but he would explain why.

"I can be honest, we're going to focus on 2021," he revealed. "As a result, next season will be a mediocre to perhaps even bad season for us.
"Because of the new rules coming up for 2021, it makes no sense for us to develop much more for 2020. We are going to make a lot of changes and hope to perform at a high level in 2021."
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Post Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:23 am

Big change in the bargeboards, what they had this year was crap, and a big reason why their car wasn't as competitive as they hoped.
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Post Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:48 am

This has got to be the year Renault finally step up, otherwise I can see the plug being pulled from this operation swiftly. is ocon an improvement from hulk? not sure.

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Post Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:17 am

Ground Effect wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:41 pm
Prost earlier in the year:

Prost's point about 2020 being a "very difficult season" for Renault might surprise some as the company try to once again became a top team in F1, but he would explain why.

"I can be honest, we're going to focus on 2021," he revealed. "As a result, next season will be a mediocre to perhaps even bad season for us.
"Because of the new rules coming up for 2021, it makes no sense for us to develop much more for 2020. We are going to make a lot of changes and hope to perform at a high level in 2021."
Yes, I think they will just try to fix the biggest issue of the RS19 but the focus is 2021

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Re: Renault F1 R.S. 20 Speculation Thread

Post Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:28 am

Focusing your limited resources and budget on the new regs is the smart call for the team.

They’ll need too keep Daniel well inside the tent tho to ensure he doesn’t decide to jump ship. I imagine they do that by giving him access to the simulator in 2021 config through out the year.
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Post Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:23 am

I expect more of same old same old.

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Post Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:53 pm

Lol that means they found a second per lap redesigning the bargeboards.
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Post Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:29 pm

Launch is on 12.2.20