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That does not look like RBR style exhaust.

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Holm86 wrote:That does not look like RBR style exhaust.
No on said that was RBR Style Exhaust.

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Huntresa wrote:
Holm86 wrote:That does not look like RBR style exhaust.
No on said that was RBR Style Exhaust.
WillN wrote:At the young drivers test today and Sauber is trialling a Red Bull style exhaust. Anyone have any photos?
Then they must have run 2 types of exhaust. Because its not a RBR exhaust on the picture.

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Here is the RBR-style exhaust
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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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stefan_ wrote:Here is the RBR-style exhaust
Since when was this RBR-style? Weren't Sauber the first to come up with it anyway?

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RBR-style as in downwash+tunnel.

Here is a larger version of the picture above (click to enlarge)
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A close-up of the exhaust
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And a comparison between the two solutions tested today
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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Sauber susprises by testing downwash exhaust - Development blog

The Sauber C32 emerged out on track today at the Silverstone Young Driver Test with new bodywork, featuring a brand new downwash exhaust layout. The new sidepod and exhaust design relies on the same principles as the designs used by Red Bull Racing and Lotus F1. Just like with Sauber now, the sidepods slope down quickly and rely on this downward airflow to help push the exhaust flow down onto the car's floor. Additionally, small tunnels are built in the sidepod, underneath the exhaust outlet and just above the car's floor to allow air to pass to the centre of the car where it is blown out onto the diffuser centreline where a small opening in the diffuser can be used to generate more downforce.

The design change is surprising for Sauber, as it was essentially the Swiss team that pioneered the downwash exhaust layout. In fact it was the only team that though of such a design in the winter ahead of the 2012 season. When the {Sauber C31} emerged impressive during winter testing, Red Bull Racing's CTO was quoted as being the most impressed by the Sauber. He was so keen on the design that the team started work on their own version, which turned the team's struggling Red Bull RB8 into a championship winning machine. Newey however crucially though about the tunnels to feed the diffuser with more air, something that Sauber failed to materialise.

In fact, Sauber believed during 2011 that McLaren's exhaust layout was a better option. The C31 was repeatedly tested with a layout similar to McLaren, but the lack of testing meant the team opted to end the 2012 season with the downwash layout. This year's C32 then debuted with a design similar to McLaren, albeit with narrow and higher sidepods.

The team finally seemed to have settled with their design, until today's unveiling of the new design, for the first time featuring a layout including ducts underneath the exhaust exits. The design was however only run briefly, as soon the bodywork started to show severe burning marks. The burning marks, which appear to be more severe than what the team experienced earlier this year in winter testing, suggests however that more development work will be needed to make this race ready.

Halfway into 2013 however, it remains to be seen if Sauber is going to invest much more time into this layout, especially because developments in this area will not be possible next year - as the 2014 rules stipulate a single exhaust exit close to the centre of the car. That is unless the team is convinced a lot of time can be found quickly.

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I wish there was a clearer picture of the burning on the rear bodywork to help get an idea of where the exhaust is going.

If at least the burns are where they should be, extending down to the edge of the diffuser, it could be a very positive thing for the team.

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the surprise was that they didn't continue it from last year after they kind of invented it
will be interesting if it is good for some gains
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Wasnt rly suprising them going mclaren style this year seeing as they ran that the later part of the year and that the sidepod is so small they cant run anything else almost.

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Huntresa wrote:Wasnt rly suprising them going mclaren style this year seeing as they ran that the later part of the year and that the sidepod is so small they cant run anything else almost.
was never a McLaren style last year (no real gap), maybee the sidepods size was a factor... but as you see a little bridge is build quickly..
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RB7ate9 wrote:I wish there was a clearer picture of the burning on the rear bodywork to help get an idea of where the exhaust is going.

If at least the burns are where they should be, extending down to the edge of the diffuser, it could be a very positive thing for the team.
Knock yourself out - the best I could do in terms of zooming and searching. No suitable images available yet for closer rear shots:
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Oh, didn't see the original above. Anyway, that's the official team photos so far.

Update from day 2:
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Young Drivers Test 2013 Day 2 (Silverstone) - 18.07.2013

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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The slots come back on the Sauber's floor
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