Red Bull RB16B

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DarthPlagueisTheVise wrote:
15 Jul 2021, 19:52
https://www.hizliresim.com/fct7e88
Revised floor for Red Bull with new deflectors ahead of rear wheel
Haven't seen this style before...

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From another angle (via @SomersF1)
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Morteza wrote:
16 Jul 2021, 12:07
From another angle (via @SomersF1)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6aOYy-WQAA ... name=large
So, kind of a double-decker. Something Mercedes already had, but they removed it, right?

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Sevach wrote:
15 Jul 2021, 20:32
DarthPlagueisTheVise wrote:
15 Jul 2021, 19:52
https://www.hizliresim.com/fct7e88
Revised floor for Red Bull with new deflectors ahead of rear wheel
Haven't seen this style before...
It's like a really big development of the Mercedes one:
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The devil is in the details. On the RBR one the lower section being part of the floor, gently slopes down, while the upper surface slopes upward slightly, albeit still in line with the slope of the floor.

On the Mercedes it's further back where the floor slopes up.

The two devices do not achieve the same thing.
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Morteza wrote:
16 Jul 2021, 12:07
From another angle (via @SomersF1)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6aOYy-WQAA ... name=large
That should energise the vortex flow nicely!
Triple decker!!!
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Scarbs wrote:A large radiator sits under the central bodywork on the Red Bull. Note how close the hot exhaust it sits!
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Scarbs wrote:A box section runs between the nose and cape on the RBR.
Fed by the nose hole, it's open at the rear to vent either side of the vertical splitter on t-tray.
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Pretty unique this nose-duct…

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I love it when the design team hits their mid season stride, you kind of just have to respect what they've done now for the last 7 seasons in terms of in season improvements.
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Did they increase downforce from FP1 to quali? Verstappen was slower in pretty much all straights in quali with most obvious being hangar straight where he reached 327 kmh in fp1, but only reached 321 in quali. He's slower on all other straights as well. He suggested he might have too much rear wing on the car, which seems strange if they continued with French RW which is sorta medium downforce wing at best. If you look at mini sector comparison on f1.com they lost around half a second to mercedes on straights which is odd.

Any pictures from quali?

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Max and Sergio running different gurney flaps
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Morteza wrote:
16 Jul 2021, 17:24
Scarbs wrote:A large radiator sits under the central bodywork on the Red Bull. Note how close the hot exhaust it sits!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6bVVdZXMAI ... name=large
Scarbs wrote:A box section runs between the nose and cape on the RBR.
Fed by the nose hole, it's open at the rear to vent either side of the vertical splitter on t-tray.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6bW6b9WQAA ... name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6bW648XIAM ... me=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6bW7PdXsAk ... name=large
Great shots!
The nose exit looks to operate in a similar manner to the Ferrari nose?
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Stu wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 15:13
Morteza wrote:
16 Jul 2021, 17:24
Scarbs wrote:A large radiator sits under the central bodywork on the Red Bull. Note how close the hot exhaust it sits!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6bVVdZXMAI ... name=large
Scarbs wrote:A box section runs between the nose and cape on the RBR.
Fed by the nose hole, it's open at the rear to vent either side of the vertical splitter on t-tray.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6bW6b9WQAA ... name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6bW648XIAM ... me=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6bW7PdXsAk ... name=large
Great shots!
The nose exit looks to operate in a similar manner to the Ferrari nose?
Ferrari nose is almost like a mini diffuser/cape hybrid thingy, it's worked out well for them, maybe something to consider for next year. :wink:
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The RB16B is on fire:


I think that was close to a retirement if the race startet a few seconds later.

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Juzh wrote:
17 Jul 2021, 11:29
Did they increase downforce from FP1 to quali? Verstappen was slower in pretty much all straights in quali with most obvious being hangar straight where he reached 327 kmh in fp1, but only reached 321 in quali. He's slower on all other straights as well. He suggested he might have too much rear wing on the car, which seems strange if they continued with French RW which is sorta medium downforce wing at best. If you look at mini sector comparison on f1.com they lost around half a second to mercedes on straights which is odd.

Any pictures from quali?
Max used the same wing setup in qually I think. Could be other reasons why the top speed was less. In FP1 Max reported limited power out of the last coner (which I think was just his battery being empty too early), so maybe the ERS release was different in qually to be able to have someting left out of that last corner. Also, Max had massive understeer in qually (from which Max said it wasn't setup related, but all in the tyres), which will have most certainly compromise the corner exit speed coming onto the hangar straight.

I know a lot of assumptions, but why significantly change the setup when you're 7 tenth faster?