2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

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Just_a_fan wrote:
07 Jul 2018, 21:10
Or did Mercedes run that extra Q2 run in order to heat cycle the tyres with a view to them being better for longer if a two stopper is required?
That.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Vanja #66 wrote:
07 Jul 2018, 21:20
Just_a_fan wrote:
07 Jul 2018, 21:10
Or did Mercedes run that extra Q2 run in order to heat cycle the tyres with a view to them being better for longer if a two stopper is required?
That.
What exactly is meant by this?

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Vanja #66 wrote:
07 Jul 2018, 21:20
Just_a_fan wrote:
07 Jul 2018, 21:10
Or did Mercedes run that extra Q2 run in order to heat cycle the tyres with a view to them being better for longer if a two stopper is required?
That.
Doubt it, Hamilton lost the car and cut across the grass during that lap.
That was a chance for the drivers to warm up themselves ahead of Q3.

If their aim was to heat cycle the tires they would do a gentle lap.

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Fun fact, Lewis got pole today by 0.044 seconds! :P
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motobaleno wrote:
06 Jul 2018, 16:34
falonso81 wrote:
02 Jul 2018, 15:54
Boring 1-2 for Merc. Moving on to next race...
Not so boring it seems...
I will be delighted if i am wrong! :D
Lets see how it goes tomorrow.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
07 Jul 2018, 21:10
With the tyre usage, would one expect Mercedes are thinking a one stopper? Start on the Soft and then move to the Medium for the rest of the race. Ferrari can do the same, of course, but have the nice back up of a set of new, fast, Soft tyres if the Mediums start to get a bit ropey. Mercedes would be forced to go to used Softs which will, of course, give slightly less performance and laps available. Or did Mercedes run that extra Q2 run in order to heat cycle the tyres with a view to them being better for longer if a two stopper is required?
I did some analysis after FP2 sim laps here: viewtopic.php?p=777739#p777739
and said that: "Vettel started a 16-lap stint on 9 laps old medium tyres with laps between 1.32.8 and 1.33.5 until 14th lap and the last 2 ones he was dropping with a 1.34.2 and 1.34.8 lap at the end … then switch to 6 laps old soft doing a 4 lap-run from 1.31.2 to 1.31.7"

So I think a 1 stop is highly unlikely, seeing that Vettel only managed some 25 laps on mediums but only 16 on high fuel load ... or on second thought, seeing Austria race I think they could pull it off, although with lots of tyre nursing and a sheer luck for an SC/VSC phase in the first 15 laps of the race ...
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Sevach wrote:
07 Jul 2018, 21:32
Doubt it, Hamilton lost the car and cut across the grass during that lap.
That was a chance for the drivers to warm up themselves ahead of Q3.

If their aim was to heat cycle the tires they would do a gentle lap.
Didn't know that, thanks! :)

LM10 wrote:
07 Jul 2018, 21:27
What exactly is meant by this?
Improving tyre performance for the race by running them a single easy lap. Exactly how and why this helps, there are people that know it a lot better than me. :)
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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are most teams agreed on two stop strategy being the best for this race? do we expect any variation in strategy between merc and ferrari?
cant wait. think ferrari will be very strong tomorrow

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atanatizante wrote:
07 Jul 2018, 22:17
I did some analysis after FP2 sim laps here: https://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewt ... 39#p777739
and said that: "Vettel started a 16-lap stint on 9 laps old medium tyres with laps between 1.32.8 and 1.33.5 until 14th lap and the last 2 ones he was dropping with a 1.34.2 and 1.34.8 lap at the end … then switch to 6 laps old soft doing a 4 lap-run from 1.31.2 to 1.31.7"
I remember him saying that the end of his run was compromised by traffic and that he could have gone quicker.

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Interesting comparison. Ferrari fastest in all of the high speed stuff, Mercedes faster in the medium/slow stuff. Mercedes running a bit more downforce perhaps or is the Ferrari PU now the best on the grid?
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Hamilton won pole in Chapel, he made up about a tenth there. #blessed indeed :D
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Just_a_fan wrote:
07 Jul 2018, 22:30
Interesting comparison. Ferrari fastest in all of the high speed stuff, Mercedes faster in the medium/slow stuff. Mercedes running a bit more downforce perhaps or is the Ferrari PU now the best on the grid?
Looks to me more like Ferrari was running less down force, it also looks like their power unit isn't as powerful, more like they're getting more out of the ERS.

If it hadn't been for the overstear Lewis would have been on pole by over a tenth.
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Interestingly Hamilton mentioned that they were surprised by ferraris pace this weekend and probably made up around 3 tenths. I'm sure this 3 tenths he is talking about is not from thin air but the sim data the team has...

Ferrari have made a huge step this weekend which makes sense considering everyone thought Merc would be on top by up to half a second.

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Gr1ff wrote:
07 Jul 2018, 23:56
Interestingly Hamilton mentioned that they were surprised by ferraris pace this weekend and probably made up around 3 tenths. I'm sure this 3 tenths he is talking about is not from thin air but the sim data the team has...

Ferrari have made a huge step this weekend which makes sense considering everyone thought Merc would be on top by up to half a second.
In fact it was Ferrari which hast lost the pole. Sebastian did a not so good first sector which costed him the pole. I am still surprised to see how competitive Ferrari has been. This was a Mercedes track so it has been worrying to see the Italians so close.