Bahrain GP 2008

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Since princi hasnt started a new go thread id thought lets begin one as there is news for thet gp;

as i predicted, the FIA would alter the qualifying rules before the end of the week and suprise suprise, they did :)

http://www.f1technical.net/news/8636

Cars must now return to the pits with a laptime within approximately 120% of their fastest qualifying lap.
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P_O_L wrote:as i predicted, the FIA would alter the qualifying rules before the end of the week and suprise suprise, they did :)
Good work.

I'm going to be a cynic and say that they had to - because after last week's events and with no rule changes a team who put in a respectable quali lap with five minutes to go could intentionally drive around the course right at the end of the session as if they were attempting another fast lap just to be able to catch their opponents out and then claim they were hindered unfairly. (It would be very hard to disprove wouldn't it? :? )

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The change in the qualifying rules for Q3 is sensible. It makes no sense to allow situations where there can be such dangerous disparities in speed among the cars on track.

Beyond that, I'm looking forward to the next grand prix, as I hope Ferrari can use their Winter testing data from the track to their advantage. On the same token, it wouldn't shock me at all, given Toyota's recent form, to have Trulli surprise and end up on the podium.

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Rob W wrote:
P_O_L wrote:as i predicted, the FIA would alter the qualifying rules before the end of the week and suprise suprise, they did :)
Good work.

I'm going to be a cynic and say that they had to - because after last week's events and with no rule changes a team who put in a respectable quali lap with five minutes to go could intentionally drive around the course right at the end of the session as if they were attempting another fast lap just to be able to catch their opponents out and then claim they were hindered unfairly. (It would be very hard to disprove wouldn't it? :? )

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After what happened to Alonso in 2006 at Monza, I doubt that any team would risk it.

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Mclaren have been handed a new slot in the pits, they will now be next to Force India! This results in smaller garages and less space for the mechanics than they are used to, but I don't think they will be affected negatively nevertheless.

http://www.f1technical.net/news/8645
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Im pretty shocked this is happening. It also raises the question why didnt this happen in melbourne and malaysia? Imo its a good move by the FIA. Apparently they where not happy with ecclestones intervention.
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P_O_L said
It also raises the question why didnt this happen in melbourne and malaysia?
Well I suppoose that the race orgaisers position fans carefully along the grandstand in front of the pits (probably the most expensive tickets) so that all the Mclaren fans can easily see the Mclaren garage, the honda fan can easily see the Honda garage and the Tifosi are right outside the Scuderia box.
However it may have been possible to reposition alot of fans in Bahrain as the tickets would be issued later perhaps after events unfolded last year.

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"In Bahrain we do our utmost to ensure that fans of each team get to sit opposite their favourite team's pit garages to see the action unfold," said the circuit's chief operating officer Sheikh Salman bin Isa Al Khalifa in a statement.
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ITV F1 has reports giving a different angle:
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=42164
http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?Type ... z&id=42039

Summary: McLaren got permission from FIA and some of the smaller teams so that they may use garage#5 so that they may accommodate all their stuff and people.

Still not clear why this sudden change in their decision and whether individual circuits can decide where to place them for each remaining race.

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FOM told the Bahrain organisers that McLaren should go to the end of the pit lane....the Bahrain officials would have moved them upto 5th otherwise.

I'm at a loss at the moment as to why - maybe they don't think Ferrari will be dominant enough without further handicapping?! :roll:
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or it may just be because all of Bahrain garages are large enough to accommodates all of mclarens kit so there no need for them to have the 5th one if the last one is just as big.
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mcdenife wrote:or it may just be because all of Bahrain garages are large enough to accommodates all of mclarens kit so there no need for them to have the 5th one if the last one is just as big.
=D> We have a winner. I was just going to say that... Bahrain is a newer facility so they may be able to accommodate any team in any garage. It seems McLaren only avoided the last box at other circuits because of the size of their operation.

I'm partial to supporting McLaren (usually) but still think that they should have been made to use the last pit area all year in fairness to other teams.

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F1Technical: Thursday press conference - Bahrain

Q: Can you get on the podium do you believe?

A: Jarno Trulli: "Oh yes. I took it easy because I know the way I am. Until I am in the car it is fine. When I have to get out I just have to take a little bit more time compared to the others because, physically, my body reacts in a different way. We have made some studies during the years and I just have to take it easy. I didn't have to get on the podium, so I took my time."
I'm guessing this answer is the long version of a possible shorter answer; which is.....Actually, I'm too old to be racing and shouldn't even be here anymore.

And what does he mean by he "didn't have to get on the podium" :? ? I agree in the fact that he doesn't have to, but as a race driver he most definately should want to.

The question I quoted came right after another question, which was if he reportedly was "pretty exhausted at the end of the last [Malaysia] race". It's situations like that that should be of concern in motorsport, old (for F1) and exhausted drivers instead of flexi-wings and/or flexible floors. Not only is Trulli endangering himself, but other people around him as well.

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mx_tifosi wrote:Not only is Trulli endangering himself, but other people around him as well.

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I don't think Trulli is endangering anyone. I think he's been performing very well so far and is a big reason for Toyota's apparent coming of age.

I would also think it's quite normal to be exhausted after driving a grand prix in hot, tropical conditions such as Malaysia. Anything less implies that a driver isn't leaving it all on the track.

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Good to have you SMP. But it says under your name it's your third post. :^o :D
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