2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Waz wrote:
22 May 2025, 16:10
Charles has been one of the absolute best at saving tires while still being incredibly fast, so it's unlikely to be that.

He was probably asked if he had learned anything from Lewis and just wanted to give them something
This here, I'm not sure Charles needs to look at or accept advise from anyone in terms of race tyre management.
It wasn't always the case for Charles but over the past 2/3 seasons Charles has been excellent at tyre management.

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its always amazing watch Charles onboard when he fired up in race usually its in 2nd stint like Singapore last year.. watching him do Quali lap over and over again was breath taking..

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Lewis' interview today

https://autoracer.it/it/hamilton-monaco ... iche-imola
"We saw that there are some positive aspects and others to improve, like Qualifying. We have some ideas: the engineers have some, I also have a few. Monaco is not the ideal place, but we'll try something already from this weekend."

The focus remains on extracting potential on Saturday, with a clear objective: "At Imola we didn't make the best use of the tire, and that's an area where we need to improve."
Saturday there will again be the need to 'tackle' the C6 for a good lap. The Englishman's confidence is also based on some historical memory though. "Ferrari has often gone well here, I remember that from my early years too. The car is a bit different from previous years. I'm excited though to get on track and see how it goes."
Charles taking about the upgrades


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Luscion wrote:
22 May 2025, 17:54
Lewis' interview today

https://autoracer.it/it/hamilton-monaco ... iche-imola
"We saw that there are some positive aspects and others to improve, like Qualifying. We have some ideas: the engineers have some, I also have a few. Monaco is not the ideal place, but we'll try something already from this weekend."

The focus remains on extracting potential on Saturday, with a clear objective: "At Imola we didn't make the best use of the tire, and that's an area where we need to improve."
Saturday there will again be the need to 'tackle' the C6 for a good lap. The Englishman's confidence is also based on some historical memory though. "Ferrari has often gone well here, I remember that from my early years too. The car is a bit different from previous years. I'm excited though to get on track and see how it goes."
Charles taking about the upgrades

I think it is fair for Charles to be metered in his optimism on the upgrades that are coming. I think the team were slightly burnt by the upgrade hype around the Imola 24' package, and we turned up this season with a non-performing rear suspension.

Until FP2 in Silverstone, I will hold hope. The speculation around efuel/biofuel for next year's PU is a little concerning. If Ferrari thinks that Shell's fuel offering will leave them lacking, then they might as well keep developing well into 25' as win's might be harder to come by in 26'.

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Space-heat wrote:
22 May 2025, 18:21
Luscion wrote:
22 May 2025, 17:54
Lewis' interview today

https://autoracer.it/it/hamilton-monaco ... iche-imola
"We saw that there are some positive aspects and others to improve, like Qualifying. We have some ideas: the engineers have some, I also have a few. Monaco is not the ideal place, but we'll try something already from this weekend."

The focus remains on extracting potential on Saturday, with a clear objective: "At Imola we didn't make the best use of the tire, and that's an area where we need to improve."
Saturday there will again be the need to 'tackle' the C6 for a good lap. The Englishman's confidence is also based on some historical memory though. "Ferrari has often gone well here, I remember that from my early years too. The car is a bit different from previous years. I'm excited though to get on track and see how it goes."
Charles taking about the upgrades

I think it is fair for Charles to be metered in his optimism on the upgrades that are coming. I think the team were slightly burnt by the upgrade hype around the Imola 24' package, and we turned up this season with a non-performing rear suspension.

Until FP2 in Silverstone, I will hold hope. The speculation around efuel/biofuel for next year's PU is a little concerning. If Ferrari thinks that Shell's fuel offering will leave them lacking, then they might as well keep developing well into 25' as win's might be harder to come by in 26'.
Yea i think its a reasonable response, no way for him to know right now how much performance the new rear suspension along with the other upgrades will bring and other teams wont just be sitting still either, but its good that the timeline for them seemingly keeps decreasing.

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Sounds like it may come in Austria instead of Silverstone now?

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
22 May 2025, 20:38
Sounds like it may come in Austria instead of Silverstone now?
If that is from his Charles quotes, I’d be unsure.

When AR first mentioned Silverstone there was a big question mark over timeline. Silverstone timeline might be the overtime one, but we can hope.

Unless there is another source on Austria?

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
22 May 2025, 20:38
Sounds like it may come in Austria instead of Silverstone now?
It will probably end being Spa at the end

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deadhead wrote:
22 May 2025, 22:47
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
22 May 2025, 20:38
Sounds like it may come in Austria instead of Silverstone now?
It will probably end being Spa at the end
Monza it is.

Really doesn't matter though, does it? Any championship placement will be well and truly meaningless by then, and it's simply gonna be a case of building confidence in their analysis and engineering processes. They can take their time with it, there's really no rush outside of perhaps media/sponsor pressure.

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Seanspeed wrote:
22 May 2025, 23:39
deadhead wrote:
22 May 2025, 22:47
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
22 May 2025, 20:38
Sounds like it may come in Austria instead of Silverstone now?
It will probably end being Spa at the end
Monza it is.

Really doesn't matter though, does it? Any championship placement will be well and truly meaningless by then, and it's simply gonna be a case of building confidence in their analysis and engineering processes. They can take their time with it, there's really no rush outside of perhaps media/sponsor pressure.
It's better for all involved than just giving up

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DJ Downforce wrote:
19 May 2025, 13:54
Space-heat wrote:
19 May 2025, 10:47
Was there any reporting around the rear wheel experiment tried in FP1 to mimic McL's solution?

Marko's quoted by The Race that RB have matched McL tyre performance.
The driver's complaints about brakes on Friday suggests to me that it didn't go as smoothly as they'd like
Seems like the experimental brake ducts have been retained and were used during Q and the race in Imola:

https://autoracer.it/it/ferrari-sf25-mo ... ento-imola

"The experimental brake ducts had a good outcome: they had already been promoted at Imola."

That is a positive, even if they aren't at the standard that RB and McL are implementing, every improvement helps, especially as Monaco is rear-limited.

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Space-heat wrote:
23 May 2025, 11:09
DJ Downforce wrote:
19 May 2025, 13:54
Space-heat wrote:
19 May 2025, 10:47
Was there any reporting around the rear wheel experiment tried in FP1 to mimic McL's solution?

Marko's quoted by The Race that RB have matched McL tyre performance.
The driver's complaints about brakes on Friday suggests to me that it didn't go as smoothly as they'd like
Seems like the experimental brake ducts have been retained and were used during Q and the race in Imola:

https://autoracer.it/it/ferrari-sf25-mo ... ento-imola

"The experimental brake ducts had a good outcome: they had already been promoted at Imola."

That is a positive, even if they aren't at the standard that RB and McL are implementing, every improvement helps, especially as Monaco is rear-limited.
There is a quote from Lewis after qualifying, where he said he felt that the brakes were good. They just obviously couldn’t get the new tyre to work.

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j_ste wrote:
23 May 2025, 11:47
Space-heat wrote:
23 May 2025, 11:09
DJ Downforce wrote:
19 May 2025, 13:54


The driver's complaints about brakes on Friday suggests to me that it didn't go as smoothly as they'd like
Seems like the experimental brake ducts have been retained and were used during Q and the race in Imola:

https://autoracer.it/it/ferrari-sf25-mo ... ento-imola

"The experimental brake ducts had a good outcome: they had already been promoted at Imola."

That is a positive, even if they aren't at the standard that RB and McL are implementing, every improvement helps, especially as Monaco is rear-limited.
There is a quote from Lewis after qualifying, where he said he felt that the brakes were good. They just obviously couldn’t get the new tyre to work.
Yea but they only used the experimental ducts in free practice at imola

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deadhead wrote:
23 May 2025, 00:20
Seanspeed wrote:
22 May 2025, 23:39
deadhead wrote:
22 May 2025, 22:47


It will probably end being Spa at the end
Monza it is.

Really doesn't matter though, does it? Any championship placement will be well and truly meaningless by then, and it's simply gonna be a case of building confidence in their analysis and engineering processes. They can take their time with it, there's really no rush outside of perhaps media/sponsor pressure.
It's better for all involved than just giving up
Exactly that. This isn't a sport where you cower down at your failures. You have to learn to take your lumps and most importantly - get over them. Confidence is not just something drivers need.

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organic wrote:
23 May 2025, 11:53
j_ste wrote:
23 May 2025, 11:47
Space-heat wrote:
23 May 2025, 11:09


Seems like the experimental brake ducts have been retained and were used during Q and the race in Imola:

https://autoracer.it/it/ferrari-sf25-mo ... ento-imola

"The experimental brake ducts had a good outcome: they had already been promoted at Imola."

That is a positive, even if they aren't at the standard that RB and McL are implementing, every improvement helps, especially as Monaco is rear-limited.
There is a quote from Lewis after qualifying, where he said he felt that the brakes were good. They just obviously couldn’t get the new tyre to work.
Yea but they only used the experimental ducts in free practice at imola
Yes, I may have misinterpreted the AR article. I thought "promoted at Imola" meant they were used after FP1, although you could read it that they weren't used after. Is there a source that the update ducts weren't used after FP1 imola?