2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Red Bull just let Adrian Newey drive the RB17 hypercar up Goodwood, that was cool.

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FNTC wrote:
09 Jul 2026, 15:43
Red Bull just let Adrian Newey drive the RB17 hypercar up Goodwood, that was cool.
The car was ready just in time, the active suspension didn't work, the active aero didn't work.
Never change, Adrian 😁

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clownfish wrote:
09 Jul 2026, 13:37
AR3-GP wrote:
08 Jul 2026, 19:27
All of twitter, Youtube content creators, and elsewhere are saying "it looks closed", must be aerodynamic or driver issue, but the team clarified that it actually isn't closed fully in Austria or Silverstone. The issue is simply mechanical.

There's so many "creators" putting wrong information out on the internet to large audiences.
Fair point, but teams don't always tell the whole truth.

If their design is non-conventional and is quicker than a traditional wing, they aren't going to say "yeah actually there's a problem with it that makes it dangerous compared to the traditional type of wing" and get it banned.
You also have a fair point, but if the team wanted to avoid macarena wing scrutiny, they shouldn't have told everyone that the wing had a problem twice. This has caused the FIA to look into it and possibly ban it: https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/ferr ... ear-wings/

If they were trying to distract, they could have said it was a different issue.
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A Major Problem Is Looming in the Background
Finally, Waché points out a notable problem within the budget constraints. The technical director states that geopolitical conflicts are affecting the cost of materials used by the teams. In particular, the war in Ukraine and conflicts in the Middle East are said to have driven prices up significantly. “The rise in the cost of the materials we use has been very significant in recent months and difficult to predict,” says Waché. “The conflicts in the Middle East and Ukraine have driven up the prices of certain materials that are also used in the production of weapons,” says the Frenchman.
According to Waché, inflation on some products has been extreme. This makes it harder for teams to stay within budget while continuing to develop the car. “Inflation on those products has exceeded two hundred percent,” he emphasizes. For Red Bull, this presents yet another complication in a season in which the team is already under pressure.
https://www.autohebdo.fr/actualites/f1/ ... agner.html

https://www.f1maximaal.nl/formule-1/red ... rmijdelijk


In the meanwhile Helmut Marko flew yesterday from Graz to Amsterdam and was seen at the Conservatorium Hotel in Amsterdam with Raymond Vermeulenand Jos Verstappen. Helmut Marko still advises them what to do with the current situation and contract.
This is the third time this month they had a meeting.


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"Spotted" they say. By a professional photographer who was with them on the same terrace, by the looks of it. :)
(This is no super zoomed photo...)

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avada wrote:
10 Jul 2026, 12:49
"Spotted" they say. By a professional photographer who was with them on the same terrace, by the looks of it. :)
(This is no super zoomed photo...)
Yeah, like one on the X commenters say Van Haren wouldn't post it without their knowledge either, so they have an agenda with the image.

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avada wrote:
10 Jul 2026, 12:49
"Spotted" they say. By a professional photographer who was with them on the same terrace, by the looks of it. :)
(This is no super zoomed photo...)
Agree, someone almost exactly where the camera view is located in that sitting area. Looks like a phone lens perspective, tipped down and low level (top leaning forwards) and short focal length typical of type. As a result the image displays diverging vertical perspective, with large spread of field/focus depth and both those attributes typical of imaging "fingerprint" like this in device used.

They couldn't have missed the person talking the photo.

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Yuki this afternoon in the RB17 at the Goodwood Festival of Speed.

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On Thursday, Isack Hadjar drove the RB22 for Red Bull. Max Verstappen was absent. He did, however, make an appearance at the team's factory in Milton Keynes the day before. Verstappen had already been in action once in April during a filming day.
https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/autospor ... m_source=x

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AR3-GP wrote:
06 Jul 2026, 19:21
The issue with the rear wing is that it doesn't close fully. You have to look carefully.
Viaplay: So what happened there?
Max: "Same as in Austria, rear wing didn't close entirely."
https://x.com/verstappenews/status/2073800932005920991

I was able to capture the issue in the footage from Austria. Its very subtle but it is there. In the 2nd run, approaching T9, the wing "looks" closed but it is not. The top of the wing remains above the endplate when it should be lower and aligned like the 1st run. You can also see the misalignment of the slot gaps at the edges of the mobile portion of the wing.

It's not about braking too late or manually closing it. The wing just can't close fully no matter what. It is a design issue.

https://i.postimg.cc/W1rS7TZ1/image.png

https://i.postimg.cc/hvd2vd9b/image.png
I'm very suspicious of this second photo now. I was watching the Silverstone on-boards video, and it's clear that that the whole flaps rotate. So that break in the edge and the mismatch in the slot gap is impossible.
Whatever photos I could find of Verstappen's car with the wing rotated also shows this:
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news ... 2283577239
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news ... 2283722891

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avada wrote:
13 Jul 2026, 22:58
AR3-GP wrote:
06 Jul 2026, 19:21
The issue with the rear wing is that it doesn't close fully. You have to look carefully.
Viaplay: So what happened there?
Max: "Same as in Austria, rear wing didn't close entirely."
https://x.com/verstappenews/status/2073800932005920991

I was able to capture the issue in the footage from Austria. Its very subtle but it is there. In the 2nd run, approaching T9, the wing "looks" closed but it is not. The top of the wing remains above the endplate when it should be lower and aligned like the 1st run. You can also see the misalignment of the slot gaps at the edges of the mobile portion of the wing.

It's not about braking too late or manually closing it. The wing just can't close fully no matter what. It is a design issue.

https://i.postimg.cc/W1rS7TZ1/image.png

https://i.postimg.cc/hvd2vd9b/image.png
I'm very suspicious of this second photo now. I was watching the Silverstone on-boards video, and it's clear that that the whole flaps rotate. So that break in the edge and the mismatch in the slot gap is impossible.
Whatever photos I could find of Verstappen's car with the wing rotated also shows this:
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news ... 2283577239
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news ... 2283722891
The "whole flap" doesn't rotate. The outboard section is fixed. That is what is used to anchor the hinge that allows the flap to rotate. It's right there in your picture:

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The driver and team have already given a statement. I provided images that are consistent with the statement. The wing didn't close. I'm no longer discussing this issue. We must look forwards.
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