2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by diffuser » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:45 pm

charliesmithhd wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:11 pm
amho wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:10 pm
I saw onboard laps of renault and Mclaren in cota gp, their engine sounds was very different and also it seems that Mclaren has higher gear ratio at least in lower gears.is there any difference between their engine or exhaust design?
Usually different microphones/ microphone placement
Interesting

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Sevach » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:47 pm



Impressive evolution.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by M840TR » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:17 pm

Sevach wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:47 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD_W4wWUT3k

Impressive evolution.
It's even more impressive once you factor in the comprised aero due to worse track surface this year.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Marc.W » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:15 pm

M840TR wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:17 pm
Sevach wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:47 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD_W4wWUT3k

Impressive evolution.
It's even more impressive once you factor in the comprised aero due to worse track surface this year.
Slower tyres too

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Sevach » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:04 am

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Mclaren trying out 2021 tires at Paul Ricard.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by JRindt » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:10 am

Do the 2021 tyres have the same width as they have now?
Or is the thinner tread making them look narrower? They look like 2016 tyres to me.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Jackles-UK » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:29 am

I think the tyre width remains the same as this year, I’m not sure if they’re sticking to the shallow tread depth that they moved to this season or not though? Many teams wanted to move back to the deeper tread of 2018 at the start of this year, McLaren were one of the few teams against it.

Will the larger wheels be a headache or a relief for the aero guys? On the one hand having less tyre deformation at high load will be seen as removing a variable but equally I expect the teams will have to run slightly more forgiving springs with longer travel to level out the bumps that the tyres currently absorb and that brings its own issues.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Ground Effect » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:56 am

Was the 2021 tyre test done with a modified 2019 car?
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by mclaren111 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:39 am

JRindt wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:10 am
Do the 2021 tyres have the same width as they have now?
Or is the thinner tread making them look narrower? They look like 2016 tyres to me.
The Rears are the same... Front's width will be less...
The headline alteration is a jump from 13-inch diameter wheels to 18 inches, and the front tyre’s width (down by 35 mm to 270 mm).

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by M840TR » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:20 am

Jackles-UK wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:29 am
I think the tyre width remains the same as this year, I’m not sure if they’re sticking to the shallow tread depth that they moved to this season or not though? Many teams wanted to move back to the deeper tread of 2018 at the start of this year, McLaren were one of the few teams against it.

Will the larger wheels be a headache or a relief for the aero guys? On the one hand having less tyre deformation at high load will be seen as removing a variable but equally I expect the teams will have to run slightly more forgiving springs with longer travel to level out the bumps that the tyres currently absorb and that brings its own issues.
It depends on the final iteration of the wheels. If they retain the wheel covers - as shown on the model at COTA - it should significantly reduce wake and consequently its management. I'm guessing the sidewall lateral movement would be mitigated as well, so that's another advantage.

The 2020 rear Pirellis are reported to have a substantial problem in this regard, hence the floor trimming. I think the 2012 ones had similar issues too, making tyre-squirt conditioning one of the critical areas of development in the blown-diffuser era.

Most drawbacks are probably just mechanical though, as you guessed.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by izzy » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:06 am

thanks, they look great don't they! What a pity they're going to have hubcaps :cry:

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by proteus » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:58 pm

izzy wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:06 am
thanks, they look great don't they! What a pity they're going to have hubcaps :cry:
I dont see how they look great? The whole car gets a cheap plastic toycar look with them.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by izzy » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:09 pm

proteus wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:58 pm
I dont see how they look great? The whole car gets a cheap plastic toycar look with them.
i don't know why you associate them with toy cars? for me they mean properly engineered suspension and much sharper handling, and generally better physics. but it is mostly about association i suppose, how we react to them

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Darth-Piekus » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:20 pm

I can't wait btw for the next year to see if Mclaren and Renault Engines will progress even more.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Ground Effect » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:35 pm

Darth-Piekus wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:20 pm
I can't wait btw for the next year to see if Mclaren and Renault Engines will progress even more.
I’m pretty confident that next years car will be a reasonable step forward. Seeing the progress they made during the course of the season with a new car project, shows they know what they’re doing. The Renault engine though, I don’t share same level of confidence, I only have hope Renault continue to make progress.
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.