2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by techman » Sat May 05, 2018 2:05 pm

^ mclaren will have some competition from force india and renault in spain. hass seems to losing bit pace just like TR . small teams struggling to keep development coming

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by makecry » Sat May 05, 2018 2:07 pm

mclaren111 wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 2:04 pm
adrianjordan wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 1:09 pm
_DM_ wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 10:02 am
Any news about new technical officer (on the Goss place)?
Purely speculation on my part, but I find it convenient that Jorg Zander has suddenly left Sauber...

I thought exatcly the same thing. And Matt Morris also came from Sauber.
Won't he be subjected to gardening leave? His track record in F1 hasn't been anything exceptional, apart from Brawn and then with Audi in WEC.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by diffuser » Sat May 05, 2018 7:15 pm

techman wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 2:05 pm
^ mclaren will have some competition from force india and renault in spain. hass seems to losing bit pace just like TR . small teams struggling to keep development coming
Yeah has nothing to do with the Honda PU....

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Ground Effect » Sat May 05, 2018 9:15 pm

A bit off topic, Fernando's #8 Toyota won at Spa... He did say he would win in 2018... Congrats to him and the #8 car. Toyota actually secured a 1-2 finish, with the #7 car recovering well to finish 2nd.
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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by ALO_Power » Sun May 06, 2018 8:58 am

nirvaand wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 7:31 am
According to #AMuS the MCL33 B-Spec car that we will see in Barcelona will have: new deflectors under nose, new bargeboards, new engine cover, new floor, and new rear wing.
So not the long-awaited new nose?

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by restless » Sun May 06, 2018 10:15 am

Ground Effect wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 9:15 pm
A bit off topic, Fernando's #8 Toyota won at Spa... He did say he would win in 2018... Congrats to him and the #8 car. Toyota actually secured a 1-2 finish, with the #7 car recovering well to finish 2nd.
Toyota has no competition in LMP1 this year. They are 2+sec/lap faster than privateers ...
A win is a win, but :/

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by godlameroso » Sun May 06, 2018 12:20 pm

He was on average a second a lap faster, look for yourself.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by ALO_Power » Sun May 06, 2018 2:09 pm

restless wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 10:15 am
Ground Effect wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 9:15 pm
A bit off topic, Fernando's #8 Toyota won at Spa... He did say he would win in 2018... Congrats to him and the #8 car. Toyota actually secured a 1-2 finish, with the #7 car recovering well to finish 2nd.
Toyota has no competition in LMP1 this year. They are 2+sec/lap faster than privateers ...
A win is a win, but :/
Same in F1 from 2013 till 2016 mate. (not identical but you take the point)

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Chuckjr » Sun May 06, 2018 5:12 pm

Anybody can win in a car that's 1+ seconds a lap faster than the field...just ask Nico and Lewis.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by adrianjordan » Sun May 06, 2018 7:09 pm

Chuckjr wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 5:12 pm
Anybody can win in a car that's 1+ seconds a lap faster than the field...just ask Nico and Lewis.
Well, using Nico is a fair example. Lewis has won in cars that weren't the fastest as well though (2009 in particular springs to mind)...
In 2007 I had the chance to go to a meet-and-greet with an F1 test driver. I decided not to as I didn't think he'd even amount to much...he was the BMW Sauber test driver and his name was Sebastian Vettel...

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Joseki » Sun May 06, 2018 7:35 pm

restless wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 10:15 am
Ground Effect wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 9:15 pm
A bit off topic, Fernando's #8 Toyota won at Spa... He did say he would win in 2018... Congrats to him and the #8 car. Toyota actually secured a 1-2 finish, with the #7 car recovering well to finish 2nd.
Toyota has no competition in LMP1 this year. They are 2+sec/lap faster than privateers ...
A win is a win, but :/
Not really 2+ sec/lap faster in race conditions:

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(we are a bit off topic :P )

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by PlatinumZealot » Sun May 06, 2018 10:44 pm

Chuckjr wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 5:12 pm
Anybody can win in a car that's 1+ seconds a lap faster than the field...just ask Nico and Lewis.
Stilll have to beat the sister car. That is the first rule no?
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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by GhostF1 » Mon May 07, 2018 1:08 am

PlatinumZealot wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 10:44 pm
Chuckjr wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 5:12 pm
Anybody can win in a car that's 1+ seconds a lap faster than the field...just ask Nico and Lewis.
Stilll have to beat the sister car. That is the first rule no?
That is true but the sister car qualified 1st and was then penalised and started 1 lap down. So the result isn't particularly reflective, especially considering they somehow finished 2nd.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by 604gtir » Mon May 07, 2018 2:02 am

GhostF1 wrote:
Mon May 07, 2018 1:08 am
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 10:44 pm
Chuckjr wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 5:12 pm
Anybody can win in a car that's 1+ seconds a lap faster than the field...just ask Nico and Lewis.
Stilll have to beat the sister car. That is the first rule no?
That is true but the sister car qualified 1st and was then penalised and started 1 lap down. So the result isn't particularly reflective, especially considering they somehow finished 2nd.
3 safety cars and an extra pitstop for car 8 , nakajima's belts.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by godlameroso » Mon May 07, 2018 2:42 am

Car 7 seems to have an edge on pace, in car 8 Alonso is the fastest most consistent driver, I love how data makes the truth undisputed.
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