2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[Juzh]

verstappen's fp2 lap - 1.28.066 (P3)

https://streamable.com/b100i


Car looks good, a bit nervous in second part of spoon, first losing the rear just a bit, then running too wide as a result.

[GhostF1]

verstappen's fp2 lap - 1.28.066 (P3)

https://streamable.com/b100i
https://streamable.com/b100i

Car looks good, a bit nervous in second part of spoon, first losing the rear just a bit, then running too wide as a result.

See if they can dial it in a little better with some time tonight, that second sector around spoon and the hairpin is the time loss. Remarkable how different the Honda sounds during partial and off throttle instances now.

[MtthsMlw]

verstappen's fp2 lap - 1.28.066 (P3)

https://streamable.com/b100i
https://streamable.com/b100i

Car looks good, a bit nervous in second part of spoon, first losing the rear just a bit, then running too wide as a result.

Degner 1 always takes my breath away

[Jaisonas]

verstappen's fp2 lap - 1.28.066 (P3)

https://streamable.com/b100i
https://streamable.com/b100i

Car looks good, a bit nervous in second part of spoon, first losing the rear just a bit, then running too wide as a result.

See if they can dial it in a little better with some time tonight, that second sector around spoon and the hairpin is the time loss. Remarkable how different the Honda sounds during partial and off throttle instances now.

Yea sounds like they took the antilag blowouts to a new level

[Wouter]

https://twitter.com/HondaRacingF1/statu ... 8263209984

I can still assume that the other teams have done the same.
It does not seem to me that the qualification continues.
It continues to rain and very strong winds until a few hours before qualifying.
At the moment all teams get their things from the garages and put a lot of things higher and the circuit is cleared, everything is taken away.
All garages must already be packed, all things must be back on the circuit and that will never happen in a few hours.

[yelistener]

verstappen's fp2 lap - 1.28.066 (P3)

https://streamable.com/b100i
https://streamable.com/b100i

Car looks good, a bit nervous in second part of spoon, first losing the rear just a bit, then running too wide as a result.

S-curves & Degner 1 is ridiculous, and Red Bull didn't even score the best S1 in FP2.

[etusch]

verstappen's fp2 lap - 1.28.066 (P3)

https://streamable.com/b100i
https://streamable.com/b100i

Car looks good, a bit nervous in second part of spoon, first losing the rear just a bit, then running too wide as a result.

See if they can dial it in a little better with some time tonight, that second sector around spoon and the hairpin is the time loss. Remarkable how different the Honda sounds during partial and off throttle instances now.

I also realised that. So didn't they use these parts by now but just added to pool for this race or is it just a different map? If this different sounds comes from same hardware it is a bit more strange for me.

[Jaisonas]

Gotta say, im a bit worried of a wet start possibility. Cant say im confident they've ironed out the issues they had.

[Juzh]

vs bottas

https://streamable.com/lghjt


bottas finds a nice slipstream in the run up to 130r, gains ~0.2s from it. Overall both cars seem pretty close (so far).

[Juzh]

verstappen's fp2 lap - 1.28.066 (P3)

https://streamable.com/b100i
https://streamable.com/b100i

Car looks good, a bit nervous in second part of spoon, first losing the rear just a bit, then running too wide as a result.

S-curves & Degner 1 is ridiculous, and Red Bull didn't even score the best S1 in FP2.

yeah degner 1 is bonkers. remember that alonso lap from 2017 when he did 250 at the apex? Now it's 262 kmh, in fp2.

[diffuser]

I beleive the lack of patience with RBR/Honda stems from a misconception that RBR racing was only missing a good relieable PU to push them over the top. This year, not unlike McLaren's 1st year with Renault, they've learned that they're lacking in other places as well.

That's simply not the case. Last's year RB was without a shaddow of doubt the best car on the grid chassis wise in later stages, but could not compete on most tracks because renault PU was 1s behind merc and even more to ferrari.

This year situation is different. Merc and ferrari have both came up with fundamentally better cars and neutered RB's advantage in this area. Had red bull not gotten a much more competitive engine in honda this year they would be absolutely nowhere, possibly even seconds adrift.

You're making my point. Everything is a moving target.

Cool link on your signature.

[Juzh]

I beleive the lack of patience with RBR/Honda stems from a misconception that RBR racing was only missing a good relieable PU to push them over the top. This year, not unlike McLaren's 1st year with Renault, they've learned that they're lacking in other places as well.

That's simply not the case. Last's year RB was without a shaddow of doubt the best car on the grid chassis wise in later stages, but could not compete on most tracks because renault PU was 1s behind merc and even more to ferrari.

This year situation is different. Merc and ferrari have both came up with fundamentally better cars and neutered RB's advantage in this area. Had red bull not gotten a much more competitive engine in honda this year they would be absolutely nowhere, possibly even seconds adrift.

I think it's a case of cause and effect. Red Bull consistently end the year with probably the best car, which could be because they develop further into the season, to be able to pick up wins here and there. By this time, Mercedes and Ferrari have probably switched to their next years car, addressing rule changes. This usually leads to Red Bull being slow out of the box because they switch full focus late, then they are playing catch up. Next year the rules are stable, so Mercedes and Ferrari have the luxury of developing further into the season than usual. We can see the effect.

You may be right.

[yelistener]

verstappen's fp2 lap - 1.28.066 (P3)

https://streamable.com/b100i
https://streamable.com/b100i

Car looks good, a bit nervous in second part of spoon, first losing the rear just a bit, then running too wide as a result.

S-curves & Degner 1 is ridiculous, and Red Bull didn't even score the best S1 in FP2.

yeah degner 1 is bonkers. remember that alonso lap from 2017 when he did 250 at the apex? Now it's 262 kmh, in fp2.

You have Lewis' best S1 lap?

BTW, I did a frame comparison between Max's lap and 2017 pole. Through the S-curves they were exactly neck & neck, despite Max's minimum speeds through those corners were significantly higher. Minimum speeds are really only telling half of the story.

[Juzh]

S-curves & Degner 1 is ridiculous, and Red Bull didn't even score the best S1 in FP2.

yeah degner 1 is bonkers. remember that alonso lap from 2017 when he did 250 at the apex? Now it's 262 kmh, in fp2.

You have Lewis' best S1 lap?

BTW, I did a frame comparison between Max's lap and 2017 pole. Through the S-curves they were exactly neck & neck, despite Max's minimum speeds through those corners were significantly higher. Minimum speeds are really only telling half of the story.

I'll find that lewis' lap if quali is canceled or raining.

I agree there's more to S-curves than just minimum speed.

[Juzh]

vs leclerc

https://streamable.com/hd7is